because Western is a no-go

why?

seismic and population issues

yes there are bigger population centers, so it's easier to find work

but the politics of those areas is terrible

there are some places that are better suited outside of those cities, if you really need access to the economy there, but I advise Idaho or Montana

much friendlier politically and culturally

climate is also sunnier and swings to seasonal extremes more as you travel east, Finally when you hit the rockies, expect a slightly wetter climate, a little more snow, and up in the rockies by the continental divide (Columbia Falls, etc.) much more snow, shorter growing season, colder overall temperatures, etc.

the happy medium, to me, seams to be the Idaho panhandle, Benewah, Kootenai, and Bonner county

I would recommend the eastern areas of Washington and Orgeon, were it not for the governments there, but at the same time if you're looking for safety and good demographics, those places are excellent.

Coeur D'Alene has a population of about 50,000 and is close to Spokane, so it's not too isolated from the conveniences of civilization, Moscow further south is about half that and is a different ecology (high plains). We need to define our goals... do we want to "take over" a town? Or do we want to participate as a vocal minority in the politics?

Do we want to buy one big patch of land together and start a "commune" lol.... there was this "Citadel" project that kinda fell flat

vocal minority

I think it would be better if we just made a general push to move to a specific town and the surrounding areas, and focused on making that town /our place/

taking anything over is unfeasable, and bth im not really intereseted in living around only other /pol/lacks

yeah I know what you mean

its a recipe for a failed state

in that case I submit Coeur D'Alene or Sandpoint as my suggestion

Sandpoint has 8000 residents, and an older population than Coeur D'Alene

I have 4 kids, one of the big things for me is to find a place where there are other young families

ive looked around Coeur D'Alene before, it looks like its mostly mountains, is there enough arable land there?

Yes, there's enough to work with for personal gardening

as far as large scale farming I'm not so sure

check this map out: http://sil.uc.edu/webapps/socscape_usa/

also that area looks like it is full of sparse suburbs or cottages

it's got population and demographic stats mapped for the years 1990, 2000, and 2010, to give you an idea of where the white population is growing

wow that map is awesome!

yeah it's really useful

Ive also considered Potlatch ID

land is really cheap

Potlatch is really, really low in population

and it might be too small for our people to find good work

that would be a good target if we wanted to take over completely

pop is 804, i dont expect anything near that many people to be with us

but if enough of our guys move out there and we get active politically, then yeah it could happen

but, again, the economic factor is limiting

so it's just something to think about

I think it would work best if we chose a decently sized city, and moved there or the surrounding lands

because for most people, it's a big deal to have access to good shopping and such

well being in a decent sized city pretty much defeats the purpose

its true