We gotta think about the economic opportunities if this thing is going to have any legs

we can grow food pretty much anywhere if we're in a good grow zone

this is good tho, it's good we disagree somewhat on this, and that we have different things we're looking for

the reason I like it is because its not very populated, has great natural obstacles, lots of freshwater and timber as well as a few dams

it's going result in making a better decision in the end

those are important considerations

It does look like a place you could go full Varg

which is where I eventially want to end up

downside is its a bit expensive

but its probably expensive for a reason, like the good climate and rainfall

full Varg?

oh right

that dude

Yeah you know Varg Vikernes

he's always preaching to people to live a more traditional lifestyle away from collapsing civilization, have lots of kids, become self-reliant, etc.

some people here have talked about wanting to go full log cabin wilderness survivalits. It's not my cup of tea but I do want to accomodate them

Yeah that's why I feel like moving next to a small city (pop 25k -50k or so) would be best

I want to be self reliant, but i like some of the benefits of civilization

because you would attract people who want to be part of the community, but want to be more isolated, they can just move further away

25-50k is big though

it can be lower

like 10k

Sandpoint is a good place for that

you cant really have influence of a town that big

I think it's possible

it depends on how big you dream, how charismatic you are

it's not just about raw numbers

it's how effectively we participate

I have no qualms running for public office

the most perfect town is Hood River OR, but its way too expensive

why is that?

the environment there looks really nice

very isolated too

it does

there are a lot of great places

I think it boils down to which location can accomodate the most kinds of people, the survivalist types are awesome to have around in your community, but the high economic performers are also useful

we need to find a place that attracts both extremes and everyone in between

I'm a part of the survivalist part of us so I'd be happy if i got a plot of land covered in loggable forest, thats all I'd need

I think farming is defenitly possible in Mossyrock

http://www.degoedebulb.com/images/home_page/drone_view.jpg

something like this is in the town