it depends on how big you dream, how charismatic you are

it's not just about raw numbers

it's how effectively we participate

I have no qualms running for public office

the most perfect town is Hood River OR, but its way too expensive

why is that?

the environment there looks really nice

very isolated too

it does

there are a lot of great places

I think it boils down to which location can accomodate the most kinds of people, the survivalist types are awesome to have around in your community, but the high economic performers are also useful

we need to find a place that attracts both extremes and everyone in between

I'm a part of the survivalist part of us so I'd be happy if i got a plot of land covered in loggable forest, thats all I'd need

I think farming is defenitly possible in Mossyrock

http://www.degoedebulb.com/images/home_page/drone_view.jpg

something like this is in the town

http://images5.gabriels.net/SIR_Affliates/286-mls_nw/photos/1100974_0.jpg

However, I think to make it possible, we'd have to be a full on farming/living on the land community

This is something we'll eventually have to work towards, but it'll be hard to just start out that way

also we're going to need internetz

another useful map @Orchid https://www.brookings.edu/interactives/diversity-explosion-the-cultural-generation-gap-mapped/

I think there's a lot to learn from the northmen guys, their work can be really inspiring to people and might be able to convince some to try another way of life. Their craft and culture is also very distinctly european, and if we ever want to ease normies into the ethnostate, or promote our community without catching the attention of (((them))), this is how you do it. The Northmen may or may not be about the 14 words, but it does not matter either way, they have still done a lot to promote the white idenitity and culture.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XKuqFG_2So

reposting here so it doesnt get buried

an issue that's important to any kind of start-up society is ensuring its long-term sovereignty and the transfer of values from generation to generation, has there been any discussion so far on this particular topic?

well thats pretty much a given

not really, realize that one of the things i think the core here holds to is to not get too far off into deep what-ifs, because its easy to masturbate to the future instead of using that time to act in the now

its one thing to say 'lets not forget our fathers faces' and another to spend a month codifying something for a place and time that dont yet exist

once again, not a monolith, etc etc

yeah i agree with that

i see myself right now as on a path, with where i am right now at one end, and the terminating point being land i own in an enviroment i crave, with my brothers to hand

anything that causes me to deviate or waste time i could be using to walk that path is dangerous

I think there are many important lessons that used to be passed on from generation to generation that are now lost in many modern people, i thought thats what hes referring to

let me give it some context

an underrated criticism of communism in my opinion is that in a scenario where the "utopia" is reached, newer generations will not grow up in the same society their ancestors who established this system did; they will possess neither the core values nor the experience upon which the society was founded, and will be more vulnerable to... "dogmatic heresies", if ya catch my drift.

they didnt earn the utopia, they were born into it, they dont know the struggle of the proles vs the bourgie

right?

oh yeah, thats basically the common problem behin the rise and fall of many past civilizations

mhm

that's my issue here

i don't know what we can do other than learn from past mistakes

it's an interesting topic for discussion.