Message from @MKUltra

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2017-09-30 03:27:18 UTC  

have fun with the fam

2017-09-30 03:27:25 UTC  

Have fun with the fam

2017-09-30 03:27:27 UTC  

If they're atheists they'll burn in hell

2017-09-30 03:27:29 UTC  

No worries, mate, I look forward to you eventually addressing my questions. Perhaps when you return

2017-09-30 03:27:30 UTC  

@Akulakhan I dont have any problem with god, just with the proof. You can attack the premises so it isnt an argument without holes. I lean to believing there may be something of a god

2017-09-30 03:27:42 UTC  

Have fun with the fam

2017-09-30 03:27:42 UTC  

have fun with the fam.

2017-09-30 03:27:47 UTC  

Have fun with the fam

2017-09-30 03:27:51 UTC  

What premise is wrong?

2017-09-30 03:28:19 UTC  

I'm Hindu and this is gay

2017-09-30 03:28:42 UTC  

^That says something

2017-09-30 03:28:46 UTC  

^

2017-09-30 03:28:49 UTC  

^^^^^^^^

2017-09-30 03:29:41 UTC  

stfu you're literally shudra-tier, kalki

2017-09-30 03:29:47 UTC  

Dude aren't you going to see your fam?

2017-09-30 03:29:58 UTC  

Shut up you're uglier than my swollen testy

2017-09-30 03:30:03 UTC  

Jk ❤️

2017-09-30 03:30:06 UTC  

kali is a douche, i apology

2017-09-30 03:30:14 UTC  

Single testicle

2017-09-30 03:30:29 UTC  

For the record I don't think it's productive to be so antagonistic to someone who is pretty much on board with every virtue of christianity as a lifestyle but has issues with the metaphysics. If understanding this stuff is criteria for you getting along with everyone, you might have an issue.

2017-09-30 03:30:47 UTC  

Pls no bully

2017-09-30 03:30:55 UTC  

Right Nut ✅
Left Nut ❌

2017-09-30 03:31:07 UTC  

Pls no bully

2017-09-30 03:31:08 UTC  

Oh I don't mind myself, I would have ignored you long ago if that was the case.

2017-09-30 03:31:21 UTC  

Just as a general rule though.

2017-09-30 03:31:41 UTC  

Where do those virtues come from if not from God? Yes, the values are still useful for nonbelievers - but would not understanding the metaphysics inform your understanding of the virtues?

2017-09-30 03:31:45 UTC  

Metaphysics are the basis of understanding values, my metaphysics are that god exists and nerd atheists burn in hell tho dude so

2017-09-30 03:32:08 UTC  

How is there virtue or goodness without God?

2017-09-30 03:32:19 UTC  

Can you prove morality without invoking divinity?

2017-09-30 03:32:55 UTC  

^can agree with those values

2017-09-30 03:33:00 UTC  

Altruism is inherently not found in humans unless you are A. White or B. Religious

2017-09-30 03:33:09 UTC  

Or hindu

2017-09-30 03:33:27 UTC  

Stfu 1 testicaled Poo

2017-09-30 03:33:41 UTC  

^

2017-09-30 03:33:49 UTC  

^

2017-09-30 03:34:34 UTC  

^

2017-09-30 03:34:41 UTC  

Poo in Loo?

2017-09-30 03:34:41 UTC  

^

2017-09-30 03:34:57 UTC  

Note that we're not invoking the Divine Command Theory - God does not simply desire goodness, He IS goodness. It's like if water did not wet the skin but merely encouraged dampness - this is ludicrous. We say God loves goodness or asks for goodness because it is in His nature. It's not just a personality trait. He isn't some divine Sherlock Holmes, as you framed it.

2017-09-30 03:35:10 UTC  

*damp*

2017-09-30 03:35:12 UTC  

@kalki I like the altruism point, i know Ayn Rand brought it up, but I learn towards the fact that we are all selfish and everything we do is for selfish reason. now I dont think this justifies everyoen doing whatever the fuck they want but rather that we can still contribute to a community and out people but we do it for selfish reason. What do you guys think?