Message from @rilath

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2017-10-26 03:01:51 UTC  

Rate my morals -
Not religious at all. Morals stem from social contract, golden rule, and non aggression principle.
Someone breaks social contract or non aggression principle, all bets are off.
Golden rule - treat others as you'd like to be treated

2017-10-26 03:02:13 UTC  

Pretty much tldr version

2017-10-26 03:17:44 UTC  

"Social contract" is a meaningless thing to state as your rule unless you outline what said contract actually is

Golden rule is, equally, not helpful in itself. If you do not impose some other moral code upon yourself, for instance, you would wish yourself not to be punished when you are caught doing something wrong; if you do impose said code on youself and accept the consequences, then the golden rule merely states that you should apply that to everyone else. It can't, therefore, form a moral rule of its own, it merely means that you have to apply whatever your rule is universally.

NAP is a good ethical system, and synergises well with social contract theory, but I see no great advantage to it as a moral system. It is simply too easy to think up situations where violence as a response to non-violent action seems perfectly morally acceptable, even if it must be ethically condemned.

Overall, likely to lead to a decent person who won't cause any outrages, but is a bit skeletal and would probably break down in lots of awkward moral positions.

2017-10-26 03:39:24 UTC  

2017-10-26 04:17:45 UTC  

Let me try to help you understand it a little bit better - I understand I only gave you a tldr version with some buzzwords.

A social contract is a contract that you, as an individual, as well as all other individuals in X society, have agreed to uphold. I live in America, so my "social contract" is US law.
Personally, and in my ideal living environment/community, the social contract would operate on 2 axioms - the golden rule and the non aggression principle, which I hope are pretty self explanatory. For the most part, this is what US law operates on, but obviously there are some discrepancies.

2017-10-26 04:22:59 UTC  

So, you would allow the laws to dictate morality?

2017-10-26 07:03:31 UTC  

No absolutely not. In the US, *most* laws are originated from NAP and golden rule (some are not, drug possession laws for example). I'm saying in my ideal system, all laws would be in alignment with NAP and golden rule.

2017-10-26 13:03:25 UTC  

Thoughts on fusing Christianity and Paganism?

2017-10-26 13:25:07 UTC  

Ew

2017-10-26 13:25:09 UTC  

Gross

2017-10-26 13:25:10 UTC  

i'm all for it

2017-10-26 13:25:29 UTC  

Leave Jeebus out of my religion

2017-10-26 13:25:33 UTC  

christianity is a cucked religion, turn the other cheek has been corrupted to apply to ALL people, instead of ones own people only

2017-10-26 13:25:49 UTC  

“Worship a Jew”

2017-10-26 13:25:54 UTC  

No thanks bra

2017-10-26 13:26:04 UTC  

you fucking memelord you dont understand

2017-10-26 13:26:13 UTC  

it doesnt mean you need to become christian

2017-10-26 13:26:29 UTC  

im saying christianity could benefit of a reformation to become more combatative

2017-10-26 13:26:45 UTC  

like the orthodox priests blessing soldiers' guns etc.

2017-10-26 13:27:45 UTC  

but if you're too attached to your 'kike on a stick lelz' to see anything more than memage, that's fine too.

2017-10-26 14:49:58 UTC  

@P14 what sort of fuze do you have in mind?

2017-10-26 14:50:17 UTC  

Dunno, it was just an idea that popped into my mind

2017-10-26 14:52:31 UTC  

Jolly crocodile, just a bit of research on my part. All taken from the book of John.

And quite as clearly he regards Jesus as not “a Jew.” In talking to the Jews, Jesus speaks of “your Law” (John 7:19, 8:17, 10:34) and “your circumcision” (John 7:22). Abraham is “your father” (John 8:56). When the Jews say to him, “Our ancestors ate manna in the desert” (John 6:31), Jesus replies, “What Moses gave you was not the bread from heaven” (John 6:32), and later on says, “Your ancestors ate the manna in the desert” (John 6:49).

I didn't write that out, from some website, but the scripture is accurate

2017-10-26 14:53:12 UTC  

they ate the mana in the desert

2017-10-26 14:53:21 UTC  

this is why nobody has magic anymore

2017-10-26 14:53:31 UTC  

everyone's permanently oom

2017-10-26 14:53:43 UTC  

Those kikes ate all the mana

2017-10-26 14:53:49 UTC  

FIGURES

2017-10-26 15:27:32 UTC  

>Be me
>Be Jolly Crocodile
>Woah, Worship a Kike!?
Heh, I'm so edgy you guys. Look at me. 😆 😉

2017-10-26 15:35:19 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/359510066623283202/373132494746288128/christianity_jesus_was_a_jew_flase.png

2017-10-26 15:53:15 UTC  

^

2017-10-26 20:16:33 UTC  

^^^

2017-10-26 21:00:18 UTC  

The Europeans already did fuse christianity and paganism, though, and the result was pre-reformation Catholocism
Worked pretty well for a bit, then fucked itself up later
Orthodox still seem to be going strong

2017-10-26 21:55:33 UTC  

^80% correct. We'll take it.

2017-10-26 22:26:35 UTC  

last i checked a great big old group of christians still buy chocolate bunnies and eggs for easter

2017-10-26 22:27:21 UTC  

absorbing pagan cults is how christianity bloomed

2017-10-26 22:27:45 UTC  

you dont think the king would call for a census in mid december in the northern hemisphere right?

2017-10-27 00:37:39 UTC  

Christians bought most of the leaderships and then the leaderships forced christianity onto the populance

2017-10-27 00:37:59 UTC  

Doesnt really matter now

2017-10-27 01:32:58 UTC  

gotta love the /Virgin/ Armchair Theologians.

2017-10-27 01:41:16 UTC  

I'm a man of the faith, but even I understand why chocolate, rabbits and eggs are an easter thing