Message from @cdemir93

Discord ID: 364138930075074582


2017-10-01 16:02:43 UTC  

shamelessly stolen from the maine discord

2017-10-01 17:42:04 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/359504430569095168/364104694588768256/image.jpg

2017-10-01 17:42:20 UTC  

Did my first hydroponic harvest today. Lots of spinach and lettuce.

2017-10-01 18:09:04 UTC  

Very nice!

2017-10-01 18:09:46 UTC  

thats really cool

2017-10-01 18:21:00 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/359504430569095168/364114492910469123/acre-infographic-v1.png

2017-10-01 18:32:48 UTC  

You need 1 acre to support one family for 1 year, if I remember correctly 🤔

2017-10-01 18:32:55 UTC  

or it was 1 person.. Can't recall

2017-10-01 18:46:34 UTC  

it seriously depends

2017-10-01 18:46:54 UTC  

if you're neeting it up hardcore in the middle of nowhere, maybe

2017-10-01 18:47:25 UTC  

once you are looking at even a small community growing, it gets a lot easier, you need a lot less land

2017-10-01 18:48:44 UTC  

theres a pretty vibrant small scale farming community on the jewtubes, look at urban farming for small footprint stuff, check out polyface farms for alternative ranching ideas

2017-10-01 18:49:26 UTC  

joel salatin is probably a nut, but he runs a successful ranch in a sustainable manner

2017-10-01 18:51:23 UTC  

1 acre for 1 family might be enough if youre good

2017-10-01 18:51:56 UTC  

an acre is a lot of land

2017-10-01 18:52:08 UTC  

if you are growing wheat or corn, sure, acreage is key

2017-10-01 18:52:58 UTC  

t. farmers son, for what its worth

2017-10-01 19:55:33 UTC  

@neetkthx
Wouldn't it be ideal for a community to exist and each family/person specialize is growing their own thing instead of everything diversifying like crazy on their own plots

2017-10-01 19:55:56 UTC  

I mean that would help foster growth for an economy within our hypothetical homestead community too so

2017-10-01 19:58:06 UTC  

Here's a good infograph for what you can do with what kind of achreage.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/359504430569095168/364138930075074580/1436229674725.jpg

2017-10-01 19:59:19 UTC  

@nERO I imagine that will happen naturally, people do what theyre best at and trade for the rest

2017-10-01 19:59:36 UTC  

or do whatever is the most profitable

2017-10-01 20:07:34 UTC  

thats a really good graphic cdemir

2017-10-01 20:33:38 UTC  

nero, yeah, basically in small farming communities it breaks out like that, if we arent talking about going full luddite or assuming that america falls apart tomorrow, most folks can get by with a victory garden that produces the interesting parts of their meals, while your full time farmers will grow staple crops/ranch animals/manage orchards

2017-10-01 20:34:59 UTC  

most broadleaf salad greens grow fast and expire/bolt quickly, so everyone growing spinach is silly

2017-10-01 20:35:32 UTC  

with things like tomatoes/squash/cukes, you are looking at canning/pickling to preserve them

2017-10-01 20:36:32 UTC  

taters are conditionable, beans/corn are dryable, wheat is storable, but you need an exponential amount of land for those

2017-10-01 20:37:48 UTC  

a lot of these infogormphics assume that you're just going to grow what you eat now, ie a shitload of corn and wheat

2017-10-01 20:39:54 UTC  

even living a 'simpler' life, you'd probably have a half acre at best of farmed land, some chickens in a chicken tractor, and you'd supliment your diet with weekly visits to the farmers market to sell your excess/socialize with people

2017-10-01 20:42:10 UTC  

i dont particularly ascribe to the 'build a huwhite community in the wilderness and relearn how to make the wheel' ideal that tends to get thrown around

2017-10-01 20:42:34 UTC  

yeah were not doing that

2017-10-01 20:42:47 UTC  

a few people seemed to want that but what they do is up to them

2017-10-01 20:43:04 UTC  

it might be the american in me, but damn if im more than a couple hours from a costco thats probably a no go

2017-10-01 20:43:05 UTC  

we just want a sustainable community

2017-10-01 20:43:39 UTC  

and this is coming from someone who has raised chickens from chick to processing

2017-10-01 20:43:55 UTC  

im unwilling to walk too far backwards

2017-10-01 20:44:54 UTC  

the urban farming stuff on the tubes is great info for what can be done on an acre, and what an acre actually looks like, curtis green is a hippie fuck, but he actually works his plots in most of his vids, and i think he's still under an acre total

2017-10-01 20:46:05 UTC  

whos curtis green, youtube search doesnt give me anything

2017-10-01 20:46:15 UTC  

curtis stone, excuse me

2017-10-01 20:46:29 UTC  

oh i saw his vids