Message from dmac100 in Cascade Front #self-improvement-general


2017-09-29 04:28:21 UTC  

I'll look into making one, will only be here for two years so dont mind it if doesnt last much longer than that

2017-09-29 04:28:41 UTC  

That corrugated fiberglass stuff is not really expensive anyway.

2017-09-29 04:28:52 UTC  

I like the pvc ones because they are super easy to move and cheap to make.

2017-09-29 04:29:01 UTC  

Yeah.

2017-09-29 04:29:48 UTC  

I had one with really thick plastic over a plastic tube frame, I got it for starters until they were big enough to plant.

2017-09-29 04:30:07 UTC  

Was maybe 6' tall and 5' wide.

2017-09-29 04:30:21 UTC  

It lasted until the first good storm.

2017-09-29 04:30:47 UTC  

I weighted it down with bricks, but then the wind just shredded it.

2017-09-29 04:31:00 UTC  

if you're willing to buy 8 or 9mm plastic it should last a few years.

2017-09-29 04:31:18 UTC  

But this was a small shitty one, you could build something way better.

2017-09-29 04:31:25 UTC  

With real PVC.

2017-09-29 04:31:53 UTC  

And something more substantial for the walls.

2017-09-29 04:32:31 UTC  

No duh. The real problem is that the larger diameter pvc doesn't bend well. I suppose you could use pex tubing instead.

2017-09-29 04:33:34 UTC  

If you used the thicker walled PVC it would probably be fine here, the plastic that one was made of was junk.

2017-09-29 04:34:07 UTC  

any idea what thickness it was? I'd guess 3 or 4mm.

2017-09-29 04:34:28 UTC  

It's the walls that are tricky because most materials strong enough to withstand a good storm don't let enough light through.

2017-09-29 04:35:12 UTC  

Other than glass and acrylic of course, but that's kind of expensive.

2017-09-29 04:35:23 UTC  

Light shouldn't be a problem if it doesn't have to compete with shade.

2017-09-29 04:36:17 UTC  

This stuff was maybe a 6 mil plastic clear sheeting.

2017-09-29 04:36:39 UTC  

I was hopeful but it just didn't hold up.

2017-09-29 04:37:28 UTC  

How was the plastic attached?

2017-09-29 04:37:36 UTC  

the frame was mostly okay though, even being made of that shit plastic tubing.

2017-09-29 04:38:29 UTC  

I'm talking about the plastic sheeting.

2017-09-29 04:38:34 UTC  

So the frame built just like PVC would, and then the walls were essentailly a huge clear bag with a zipper around the front.

2017-09-29 04:38:46 UTC  

Wrapper? I dunno.

2017-09-29 04:39:09 UTC  

Hard to describe, like a skinn I guess.

2017-09-29 04:39:34 UTC  

was it a solid piece that was glued on? I'd use zip ties attached to each support post.

2017-09-29 04:39:42 UTC  

So you end up with basically a large clear box.

2017-09-29 04:40:33 UTC  

No, it was flexible plastic that the PVC "skeleton" gave structure to from the inside.

2017-09-29 04:41:00 UTC  

Let me see if I can find one, this was years ago and have since built something more sound.

2017-09-29 04:42:38 UTC  

Something similar in concept to this.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/359496856113381387/363183772201385984/Outdoor-portable-small-greenhouse.jpg

2017-09-29 04:42:57 UTC  

It's hard to describe without having pictures. It would be a pvc skeleton linked together with tees and pipe to make the frame work with zip ties through grommets in the plastic to secure the skeleton.

2017-09-29 04:43:14 UTC  

With thicker plastic and a zipper running around the whole front side.

2017-09-29 04:44:31 UTC  

Of course that would tear. It's like a giant sail that would catch the wind. It needs to have a bit of give to prevent it tearing.

2017-09-29 04:44:43 UTC  

Yeah, I kow exactly what you are talking about, I think it would be fine as long as the grommets were installed properly and the sheeting was thick enough.

2017-09-29 04:44:59 UTC  

Oh, it gave..

2017-09-29 04:45:29 UTC  

Storms get pretty bad here though with respect to winds.

2017-09-29 04:45:57 UTC  

I work in a hardware store that sells 8mm plastic. But for some reason I can't find it listed online.

2017-09-29 04:46:52 UTC  

The problem with grommets is that they create "tear points" if they aren't crimped well enough.

2017-09-29 04:48:26 UTC  

yeah, you could try to attach the grommets to another piece of plastic and then glue that on to the sheeting.

2017-09-29 04:49:05 UTC  

That would probably work better. You would need a hell of a glue.