yeah many such projects fail, but its the survival of the fittest i guess

No, you're not competing against each other to see who wins. You're seeing who doesn't starve and keel over, and food is extremely scarce

@Zennex17 Most people are depressed, confused, I don't fault anyone who'd want to join when they saw it materialize rather then be here during the planning phase. Hope is lacking and it's our responsibility to create something tangible. I think many of us might be surprised to see just how many normies are miserable with the way things are right now as we are too

What's with that picture? Freemasons?

I agree, many are fraught with sadness and are left without a purpose. Regardless if they realize it or not, they all want, that all need a purpose. Aim to give them that purpose.

The founders of nations/colonies are hard men, we endure the suffering and create something great many benefit from because we have the ability to do so. Exactly, which is why we shouldn't be discouraged by interest levels during the early phases of this

many people will only follow movements that are succeeding, if we can actually put boots on the ground, im certain they will realize we arent just fucking around and will come to us

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Most certainly

But remember this

Those hardy men that make nations, that truly break the mold and make something of themselves. The Great men of our world. They're not us. Not yet. It's not out of our reach, but I doubt any of us can claim to be a "Great" person just yet. It all starts with Self Improvement

@Orchid "yeah i personally beliefe in the notion that hardship breeds strength and weeds out the undesirables"

Hard times create hard men.

@Zennex17 indeed, we have to see who will rise to the occasion

@Zennex17 That's true, but we see the inspiration of past great men to try and give us motivation towards being the best versions of ourselves we can be. In hopes of that version embodying a new generation of great men/founders. We also accept that even if we can't be those great men, we can help those who can be

@Orchid I'd say above all, the best advice that I can give to you, if you truly are serious about this, and not in a LARP-way. Fully commit yourself. With every essence of yourself and every fiber of your being, commit yourself to your goal, and if you truly do all that you can, not even god will deny you.

@Zul I never said we couldn't be them. I never said we couldn't surpass them. All I said is that we currently aren't them. But striving for that status, that greatness, that ideal. That's the right path

@Zennex17 Agreed

Thank you

also i want to remind you guys that there will be a voice meeting at 9pm, i encourage you guys to participate

What time zone?

eastern, I guess

eastern

to clarify its tomorrow

not today

my bad

Yeah that shouldn't be a problem unless something comes up between now and then

I should be off work by then.

I would love to come, and will do my best to make it

Additionally, might I suggest making an additional tab for citizen members when displaying who is online @Orchid

Much appreciated

Well with that @everyone , I hope we'll get to know each other much better in the future! I wish the best for the project, and will be keeping tabs on it for as long as it is staying true to its purpose. Enjoyable discussion early @Orchid and @Zul , thank you very much for that.

@Zennex17 Thank you as well friend, I look foreword to future efforts we make together

@Zul The same goes for you. And to the rest of the users, the same!

No homo

Hello - Belisarius requested that we join this server. How is everyone doing?

Very good. And how about yourself @Akulakhan ?