you technically don't need money

or a job

other than taxes

You will still need money. Mostly for healthcare.

true

Specialty procedures, things that local doctors can't do.

have a doctor live with you

But additionally there will be tons of creature comforts you will need money for, for example, I highly doubt we will be producing playstations, or TVs, or blenders, or refrigerators.....

I could go on.

solar panels and water wheels for basic electronics

>coolers

>possibly a/c

>lights

@Rin those kiwis I posted are native to siberia, so I think we can grow them. the reason most people don't grow those crops is because they aren't the super improved monsanto frankenstiens. you could grow something like this http://www.rareseeds.com/glass-gem-corn-/ and charge an arm and a leg to the city dwelling hipsters.

lmao

So you think aa commute to the city is out of the question for a job, but you are fine with it to sell fruit?

You don't need electricity to make coolers

i'd prefer to avoid society

@Lorenzo ?

I've lived for about two years without a refrigerator

Once a week is fine. Driving 40 mintutes one way each day isn't.

it's possible to control temperature inside a given envinronment

thick walls

i'll have just like a log cabin n shit

not too much in terms of walls lol

So?

Dig a hole

Add a step ladder into it

Board up the walls so it's not all dirt

and you have a cold box, if you do it well

You could fill it with snow during winter and you have a natural freezer for a good few months

also salting food is a good way to preserve food

40 mins one way each day is not even that bad...

You can make a greenhouse with pvc and greenhouse plastic.

Even in CA I know people who have worse than that.

right

People depend on electricity way too much today

It's all about relearning

what our ancestors knew

mhm