Message from @Mitere

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2017-10-01 01:37:19 UTC  

we need to stop larping as a bunch of cowboys and middle ages europeans

2017-10-01 01:37:33 UTC  

we can have trucks, and buy shit we cant make

2017-10-01 01:38:06 UTC  

lmao

2017-10-01 01:38:06 UTC  

okay

2017-10-01 01:38:12 UTC  

we buy capital goods and produce consumer goods

2017-10-01 01:38:23 UTC  

@!papa agreed

2017-10-01 01:38:34 UTC  

put simply

2017-10-01 01:39:00 UTC  

Self sufficiency should be a long term goal, but thinking that we'd be using Amish level technology starting out is silly.

2017-10-01 01:39:09 UTC  

@Mitere this

2017-10-01 01:39:41 UTC  

@dmac100 corn may not be optimal for energy but we can kill many problems with one solution

2017-10-01 01:39:41 UTC  

I think it's completely reasonble to have non-powered tools to use in a SHTF long term scenario but also make use of modern technology while we have it.

2017-10-01 01:40:01 UTC  

>implying I'm not gonna set up blacksmithing shop with Ramen

2017-10-01 01:40:03 UTC  

@dmac100 what didnt you get about buying capital goods and producing consumer goods

2017-10-01 01:40:11 UTC  

Heh, get a load of this guy..

2017-10-01 01:40:28 UTC  

we buy tools and machines and produce food to sustain ourselves

2017-10-01 01:40:38 UTC  

maybe even sell surpluses to outsiders

2017-10-01 01:41:12 UTC  

IRCC biodiesel corn farmers only get a profit through government subsidies. IF they didn't get govn't funding for "Green energy" they wouldn't break even.

2017-10-01 01:41:19 UTC  

think about this ethnostate economically

2017-10-01 01:41:24 UTC  

and you can easily succeed

2017-10-01 01:41:36 UTC  

Like how Wind turbines cost more in maintenance than they provide in power.

2017-10-01 01:41:44 UTC  

Cool concept, but not practical.

2017-10-01 01:42:46 UTC  
2017-10-01 01:42:56 UTC  

solar is a very good investment though

2017-10-01 01:43:05 UTC  

all year round, right?

2017-10-01 01:43:05 UTC  

not as much maint

2017-10-01 01:43:11 UTC  

If I don't get to carpent and craft a whole lot you'll have one grumpy Koala on your hands 😒

2017-10-01 01:43:15 UTC  

waterwheels only work until the waters freeze

2017-10-01 01:43:22 UTC  

sadly

2017-10-01 01:43:49 UTC  

flowing water doesn't freeze as easily as stagnant water

2017-10-01 01:44:14 UTC  

Solar does seem to be the best source of "off the grid power"

2017-10-01 01:44:28 UTC  

I suppose we could keep fires alive by the waterwheel to keep it flowing, but it's pretty much no use, cost too much Wood and so on I gues

2017-10-01 01:44:31 UTC  

s

2017-10-01 01:44:31 UTC  

solar is your best bet off the grid

2017-10-01 01:44:31 UTC  

As I said corn is not the best option for energy but it can be a solution for other problems, like alcohol, starch, feed the animals...

2017-10-01 01:44:48 UTC  

Yeah

2017-10-01 01:44:51 UTC  

The versatility makes it worth

2017-10-01 01:44:53 UTC  

why solar

2017-10-01 01:44:57 UTC  

Corn is still a staple for feeding farm animals and farmers.

2017-10-01 01:45:24 UTC  

@Mercer nearly every homsteader I've met that lives away from power has solar and can most modern comforts with it

2017-10-01 01:45:27 UTC  

solar is a low maint and high yield way for power