Message from @Marlow

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2017-10-08 19:09:33 UTC  

it all comes down to 'buy low sell high' in the end honestly

2017-10-08 19:09:54 UTC  

there's more to it then that, find cryptos that are undervalued, put money in, and wait for them to go up then sell

2017-10-08 19:10:17 UTC  

it's essentially no different from playing the stock market

2017-10-08 19:13:06 UTC  

If it's too decentralized, then you get issues in synchronous messaging... Lets say Alice, Bob, and Carl are in a chat room, it's completely decentralized so they each store the data for the chat history

2017-10-08 19:13:29 UTC  

but if alice and bob had a conversation, and neither are online, carl won't be able to retrieve that conversation's data

2017-10-08 19:14:11 UTC  

you could implement a decentralized blockchain, but then you have to incentivize people to host and compute all of those cryptographic messages, this is usually done with some kind of digital token

2017-10-08 19:14:32 UTC  

depends on the amount of users, your suggestion is countered by having a single accont that's online 'all the time'

2017-10-08 19:14:53 UTC  

if you want an experience like discord, then the only solution is to have a "single source of truth" (a central server)

2017-10-08 19:14:57 UTC  

having a chat thing on a blockchain is a terrible idea

2017-10-08 19:15:09 UTC  

you'd want the ability to purge anything

2017-10-08 19:15:19 UTC  

now, whether that can be like a minecraft server, where it's easy for users to just spool up, even keep it on a raspberry pi, that would be ideal

2017-10-08 19:15:25 UTC  

blockchain is antithetical to that

2017-10-08 19:15:32 UTC  

yeah

2017-10-08 19:16:06 UTC  

ideally you'd have a tor-like thing, a mesh-net within the internet

2017-10-08 19:16:26 UTC  

that you'd just have to verify into regularly

2017-10-08 19:16:29 UTC  

My thinking is to build a chat client, and also host a general chat server

2017-10-08 19:16:54 UTC  

but offer a free and open source server users can use in parallel to the default main server (that I'd be running)

2017-10-08 19:17:28 UTC  

to the end user, he won't know the difference looking at the list of "servers" he's subscribed to

2017-10-08 19:18:31 UTC  

that makes you the point of failure

2017-10-08 19:18:39 UTC  

the way I'd make money is by offering a "premium" version of the client

2017-10-08 19:18:46 UTC  

that's what discord already is

2017-10-08 19:19:16 UTC  

that's what any thing "in the cloud" already is

2017-10-08 19:22:41 UTC  

'the cloud' is synonymous with 'hosting it inside the CIA'

2017-10-08 20:57:50 UTC  

rip identity europa

2017-10-08 21:38:06 UTC  

@Lorenzo are you talking about ebets?

2017-10-08 21:39:07 UTC  

im not sure it's fair to ban things like buying a loot box

2017-10-08 21:39:38 UTC  

people should be allowed to gamble if they want to

2017-10-08 21:40:16 UTC  

Not children

2017-10-08 21:40:24 UTC  

this is where i point out that cs:go is literally a M rated game

2017-10-08 21:40:45 UTC  

Don't sign if you don't agree

2017-10-08 21:40:47 UTC  

dont ask the government to take over parenting

2017-10-08 21:41:05 UTC  

(pls)

2017-10-08 21:43:22 UTC  

interestingly enough, the japanese government has set forth some pretty hefty regulations on games that do the random roll loot box/gacha style systems

2017-10-08 21:44:11 UTC  

im curious as to how familiar you are with exactly how gambling happens in csgo

2017-10-08 21:45:47 UTC  

i've only seen videos on it, I don't play myself.

2017-10-08 21:45:52 UTC  

ok

2017-10-08 21:46:20 UTC  

so the enabling factor on valve's end is literally the simple ability to trade skins with other players

2017-10-08 21:46:38 UTC  

you can trade/gift cool jpegs with other steam users

2017-10-08 21:47:11 UTC  

every other piece of this vile evil you want to regulate is 3rd party and valve has no control over it

2017-10-08 21:48:23 UTC  

though i am assuming you're bandwagoning against things like csgodiamonds/ebets and not just loot crates in general

2017-10-08 21:48:46 UTC  

I haven't signed it, I'm only giving it out because I know some people have trouble with it.