What you will try to do now is say that it's number 1 but the character traits of the individual are the ones that determine how they act but you can't do this

As I just said - those predestined to go to Heaven will be of a certain character, that despite the fact that they have a relative level of autonomy and freedom, they will choose to follow a more moral/righteous path. Having free will does not inherently mean that you will do whatever the fuck you want without a sense of morality.

It means that you can though

and if you can there is no way to say that this person is predestined for heaven or hell

unless the person's actions don't matter

If that's true why do people feel regret/sadness for killing others?

You misunderstand

These are non-arguments

Im saying that, since God is all-knowing, those predestined to go to heaven will be those who would act in accordance to His will regardless of whether they go to Heaven or Hell

You can't say that and still have free will

I.e. they have freedom, but choose to use said freedom to follow His doctrines

Of course you can

because it is determined *prior to their actions* whether or not they go to heaven

As I said - the idea is that God is omniscient

This is just logically false

He knows what their actions will be prior to them carrying them out

you can not give free will while remaining omniscient

Of course you can. The idea isn't that God is forcing people to act a certain way

Because if it is known what you will do, then it is predetermined what you will do, and you have no agency

no you are just flat out wrong here there isn't even an argument to make.

The idea is that God knows how people will act anyway

You are still the agent carrying out said actions

No that's wrong. This is accepted by wrong by every philosopher even religious ones

*You* are the one making the choices, not God

No it doesn't matter. If he **knows** what actions you will tkae prior to you making them. Then there is **no** way to say you could have chosen otherwise.

This is not up for debate, this is widely accepted as problem by people you probably agree with

In this scenario free will is an illusion

It's why Calvinism (specifically predestination) is wrong and where these disagreements come from

Of course there is. If God is all knowing - as described in the Bible, then He will know all possible actions you could take throughout your life - I.e. there is still a level of personal input necessary. God doesn't force people to do anything - he merely observes.

No wait

*possible actions* is not the same as saying knowing which actions the person will take

Thus it's still *your* choices, but God knows what choices you make.

Prior to you making them?

Just yes or no prior to you making them, does God know what decision you will make? In your opinion

If an entity is all knowing it will know everything - possible actions as well as what actions will be taken. God knows that humans have a level of autonomy and as such their actions are of their own volition - God, however, still knows what path the individual will take.

Again, the idea is that God is omniscient, but not necessarily interventionist in the paths of individuals

It's akin to being able to go see all possible universes at the same time

No

It's not

because the soul is predestined to heaven or hell

Yes or no, does God know what action you will make before you make it?

Predestined by whom? God.