Message from shinjitsu in Nick Fuentes Server #catholic-poasting-no-cultural-christians-allowed

2018-01-16 16:57:09 UTC  

So you don't believe in iq differences? 🤔

2018-01-16 16:57:33 UTC  

Do you even know what Calvinism is lmao

2018-01-16 16:58:06 UTC  

>imagine believing in a God and thinking he created shit tier people knowingly
>believing that every human is equal

2018-01-16 16:58:21 UTC  

So why would he create shit tier people then

2018-01-16 16:58:36 UTC  

I don't know - I'm not God.

2018-01-16 16:58:43 UTC  

Lmao solid argument

2018-01-16 16:58:47 UTC  

If you're autistic

2018-01-16 16:58:55 UTC  

Woah based ad hominem

2018-01-16 16:59:14 UTC  

Happens when someone just used "uh I'm not God" as an actual argument

2018-01-16 16:59:32 UTC  

Really though, you can't believe that everyone is equal but also recognise that racial iq differences exist

2018-01-16 17:00:01 UTC  

Why is there a distinction? Probably due to culture and environment.

2018-01-16 17:00:19 UTC  

Was this part of God's plan? I can't fathom to know.

2018-01-16 17:00:50 UTC  

Or I don't have a positive assertion to a God I should say

2018-01-16 17:01:01 UTC  

>doesn't believe in God
>posts in the Christian channel

2018-01-16 17:01:10 UTC  

Ten outta ten my dude

2018-01-16 17:01:28 UTC  

>can't defend Calvinism going beyond 1 layer deep

2018-01-16 17:02:12 UTC  

You realize any ideology that you differ with could use the exact same argument you have. I could argue for gods existence far better than you because I have read these religious texts

2018-01-16 17:02:34 UTC  

Ok fedora lad

2018-01-16 17:02:50 UTC  

So no argument for Calvinism?

2018-01-16 17:03:18 UTC  

Okay lets look at Christian theology

2018-01-16 17:03:22 UTC  


2018-01-16 17:03:44 UTC  

Does the Bible recognise the tribalistic nature of humanity?

2018-01-16 17:03:55 UTC  

I.e. that differences between groups are inherent

2018-01-16 17:04:00 UTC  

Yeah of course

2018-01-16 17:04:06 UTC  


2018-01-16 17:04:28 UTC  

You're making a conclusion that requires a jump from there that you're not justifying though

2018-01-16 17:04:39 UTC  

Did God make humans as agents of their own free will to some extent?

2018-01-16 17:05:05 UTC  

Let's say yes completely given agency for the sake of the argument

2018-01-16 17:05:26 UTC  

God's nature by it's very definition is essentially a mystery. All we have are the remaining texts that he left to us. That is what we know him by and what we can interpret his will as.

2018-01-16 17:06:00 UTC  

Wait hold up I wanna hear his reasoning

2018-01-16 17:06:04 UTC  

Ok then. Is it the fault of God then that some humans chose to collectivise themselves into groups that are inferior than others?

2018-01-16 17:06:22 UTC  

Sounds like Deism almost.

2018-01-16 17:06:30 UTC  

The reasoning I mean.

2018-01-16 17:06:30 UTC  

In Calvinism *yes*

2018-01-16 17:06:33 UTC  

Thomas is right though - I can't make objective assertions regarding the motives of God

2018-01-16 17:06:42 UTC  

This is my problem with what you're saying

2018-01-16 17:07:23 UTC  

In Calvinism it 100% is the fault of God that people do these things. Both collectivizing and being individually immoral

2018-01-16 17:07:34 UTC  

It's why I don't like Calvinism

2018-01-16 17:08:10 UTC  

Then so be it. In your interpretation, Christians should be egalitarian and that is also quite clearly false based upon Christian theology

2018-01-16 17:08:19 UTC  

God obviously gave humans a certain degree of agency while at the same time outlining some form or another a means of possible, or at least plausible predestination.

2018-01-16 17:08:44 UTC  

No they shouldn't be because predestination is wrong, Calvinism is based on predestination and that is that