Message from @Bellerophon
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the US had plenty of hungry people
I don't think anyone wants another gibsmedat society
@Orchid not as many as they do now
what if you have a family, are they just going to give up their life and live in a homeless shelter?
In traditional Western Societies it was Religious orders that filled the role of modern welfare
They also dealt with education and medicine
No, I wouldn't let it get to that, I'd make sure they were well set up so even in the case of my death they would still be alright
I know how to save
Also the US had far more hungry people in the past, there are very few people literally going hungry these days. Just look at the obesity rates among the poor
The poverty rate in the US right now is larger than the actual population of the US before welfare
modern poverty =/= hunger
But sure there are a lot of fattiea
Fatties*
Poverty is still poverty m8
Singapore has dealt with homless neets
It's literally illegal to be poor and unemployed there.
What system does Singapore use?
They put you in an apartment and give you a job- say sweeping streets
You have no option but to sweep the street.
If you don't they cane you
So how would we design that for the PNW colony?
Because it would be new and wouldn't have a lot of empty housing
why would we need that?
Also, for Singapore, they do have the Asian perception of honour and shame.
Which is much stronger than in Anglo culture today
welfare in the US is not a part of any municipality
but I guess we could run a charity
Charity is key
In Europe it was the Church that provided charity
That was one of the main purposes of monasteries.
Should we start a church?
And how do we stop the church from coming corrupt?
We dont have to, but we should look at how it provided social assistance.
That has been thought about, if we have enough people we probably will start a church
I think having a church in the future society would be fairly beneficial, especially for those of us who espouse faith
I've lived in rural close-knit christian communities before. Usually if a family has a problem, the rest of the community comes together and gets them out of it.
Think less religious worship and more community gathering I think
That family then feels an obligation to contribute in the future
More of a binding force rather than one strictly committed to worship
This community is open to all western faiths right?