Message from @WOMP WOMP boi
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What makes them more likely to find a new job, and what if they don't?
Having no money and nothing to rely on makes them more likely to find a new job obviously
you cant expect everyone to just solve all their problems by pulling up their bootstraps
@JasonWilliams welcome
alright, but what if you dont
What's this?
What if they don't find a job?
what if the economy sucks, or you're not in your 20s and learnign new things just isnt as easy anymore?
That's a good question. Perhaps private charity would better help these people than state-controlled welfare.
I'm not sure.
check the <#359432753474699274> and <#359517581276741644> , this is basically an ethnostate group
maybe
churches used to be in charge of those things
@Orchid just read the faq
Like the idea of an ethnostate, is this just a side group of the First Colony?
Perhaps welfare wouldn't be necessary in an ethnostate that doesn't have high-ass taxes, university subsidization raising the costs of tuition to largely exclude the bottom half of people, thus making it very difficult and expensive to learn a skill, etc.
@WOMP WOMP boi if people need welfare, then they are a burden not an asset
we would have to see. I understand that todays welfare systems just encourage people to be lazy, but those same things might not apply to a white country
"if people need welfare, then they are a burden not an asset"
yes they probably are a burden, but so what, dont you think we should still show humanity and take care of them?
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Give them a job instead of free food
we are separate from first colony, were focused on the pacific north west
government jobs?
what if there are no jobs to give, or should the government just create jobs?
There is always a job, and if not they can just work for themselves. Teach them to grow their own food, teach them to build their own house. If they can do those things then there will be no need for welfare
@Orchid PNW sounds much better to me than Maine tbh, but I'll see how much I can help with both groups
to grow your own food you need land, and farming is a hard skill, it could take years for you to learn to feed yourself properly, and thats assuming youre young
same thing goes for the house, and you need tools and materials as well
Isn't Jason practically making an argument just for public schools
that is something people in those decrepit appalachian communities should conisder instead of being poor as dirt generation after generation. But what if say youre 40 and youre factory job is gone?
You'd hope by 40 you could have set yourself up
you cant expect a factory worker to have enough money to retire at 40, and sometimes shit just happens
I understand the need for compassion and humanity but I don't want the new society to end up like the old one, a welfare state
If he doesn't have enough money to retire, maybe he should learn a skill
thats not really a reason to not help people. I think there's a right way to do welfare, it doesnt always have to turn into what it is now
i mean any society can eventually deteorate, rise and fall of civilizations and all that.
Tax/welfare is state-run slavery, the most productive of the nation loses the most to give to the least productive for nothing in return
ugh, that hyperbole again. I guess thats easy to say if your young and live in a comfortable first would country. I don't mind handing over some money to not see people starve.