If they are 100% ignorant then they will be saved so long they are baptized

But if they KNOW of the Catholoc church

Then sadly they will burn

@Simon Sasquatch Also if you plan to convert I suggest you go to a church that has Latin mass

@Deleted User I attended a SSPX Latin mass last week, I thoroughly enjoyed it.

Ah Nice

I attend SSPX aswell

I love it

Can you see my sceptism about the idea that only those who are part of the Catholic church are saved?
The modernist Catholic church doesn't practice the real mass, the post Vactican II Popes are invalid according to the traditional Catechism, and most attendees of the Norvus Ordo mass don't practice any parts of the religion. Do you think that Norvus Ordo Catholics will be saved?

@Simon Sasquatch I believe that Most Novus Ordites as they are modernist heretics will not be saved, HOWEVER although i hate that mass, some {few} novus ordo masses are decent

So I think that salvation can be found in Novus Ordo but not many will be saved by it

As you said its a terrible mass filled with heretics and heresu

That's the trouble with the idea that only Catholics will be saved, for me. The modern Catholic Church is in rebelion against God in favor of the World. If we agree that the authority of the Pope and high clergy of the modern Catholic church is not valid becuase they effectivly created a new religion with Vactican II, then wouldn't that mean that you'd have to break away from the Catholic Church to some extent to truely follow the true Catholic faith?

no

breaking away will send you to hell

The SSPX view the Pope as legitimate

And they are in partial communion and will be in FULL communion soon

We just need to understand that right now The Mother Church is going through a HARD time

But I trust in Christ King that in time these problems will be solved

And progress is being made

Allmost every NEW seminarians are Traditionalists

The next wave of Priests will fix the Church IMO

IDK man, you may be right. I don't see how the modernist popes can be legit, but you're obviously more knowlegable on this topic than me, I'll concede that.

I'll pray on it, and I'll definitely go back to the SSPX mass.

@Simon Sasquatch Study history and you will learn that we have Had MUCH WORSE popes than what we have now

For example we had a Pope who had a daughter and impregnated her

WHILE POPE

So just keep going to the SSPX mass and even if you come to reject the Modern Popes do not Blaspheme

I'll look into it

@Deleted User Thanks for the insight

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Novus ordo are the only parishes near me, I'd have to drive almost 2 hours for latin mass. Unfortunately that's not possible rn

But the deacons are very nice to me at the church i go to, they just got a new priest

Make sure he doesn't pull a Father Michael and isn't raping babies or shit like that. Keep that Novus Ordo shit in check.

https://youtu.be/YWzPU1oeViM

Terry Marino Matthew 18:15-17New International Version (NIV)
Dealing With Sin in the Church
15 “If your brother or sister[a] sins,[b] go and point out their fault, just between the two of you. If they listen to you, you have won them over. 16 But if they will not listen, take one or two others along, so that ‘every matter may be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.’[c] 17 If they still refuse to listen, tell it to the church; and if they refuse to listen even to the church, treat them as you would a pagan or a tax collector.

Powerful response to the cast the stone stuff

Hey fella, be careful with that interpretation...

https://youtu.be/RdAzXbGE2Xk

https://i.imgur.com/3R9S4Pw.jpg