Message from @rilath

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2017-10-22 20:04:49 UTC  

https://www.landwatch.com/Washoe-County-Nevada-Land-for-sale/pid/327264270 closest to a major city ..unsure about access or electricity

2017-10-22 20:05:06 UTC  

benefits of nevada is a longer growing season cheaper land and more solar

2017-10-22 20:05:21 UTC  

also no need to stockpile fuel for winter

2017-10-22 20:05:27 UTC  

Is there any financially feasible alternative to the power grid?

2017-10-22 20:05:35 UTC  
2017-10-22 20:05:35 UTC  

yeah solar isnt bad

2017-10-22 20:05:42 UTC  

Sounds expensive

2017-10-22 20:05:45 UTC  

but you need enough sun

2017-10-22 20:05:53 UTC  

solar is super cheap actually

2017-10-22 20:06:30 UTC  

if you are in a desert..in the PNW you need twice the panels for the same electricity and you also need to gather wood or fuel for winter

2017-10-22 20:08:43 UTC  

if you want to talk about expensive that would be running cable from the grid to the community and then paying per KWh...im not sure about electricity prices outside of my area but they are pretty high and solar is almost dead even with it for cost over lets say 10 years

2017-10-22 20:10:38 UTC  

being on solar would obviously also keep everyone in conservation mode , not like scarcity but people wouldnt leave the lights on unnecessarily as an easy example...basically it would make people more mindful of where their power comes from and more self sufficient

2017-10-22 20:12:46 UTC  

are we all holding down real jobs, or once we're financially stable will we alljust transition into maintaining the lland and community?

2017-10-22 20:13:46 UTC  

also, in regards to crime. If someone commits crime in our community how will we handle it?

2017-10-22 20:13:59 UTC  

literal pitchfork army in my opinion

2017-10-22 20:15:31 UTC  

i think a town hall approach would also be good. Have the pitchfork army go and retreive the perp, and let the community decide their fate

2017-10-22 20:15:49 UTC  

depending on severity of the crime

2017-10-22 20:17:46 UTC  

well yeah i dont think crime would be that rampant i would also be ok with like a CIA approach where you have basically the towns leaders have a meeting with him and scare the shit out of him...someone that they would know cuold really mess their life up for them and their family

2017-10-22 20:18:01 UTC  

mhm

2017-10-22 20:18:57 UTC  

i don't think crime would be too much of a problem either, I mostly foresee something like theft

2017-10-22 20:19:11 UTC  

adultery would not be tolerated in any capacity in my eyes.

2017-10-22 20:19:26 UTC  

the last thing id want to do is parade criminals in front of the town...it could give them celebrity and it would hurt their reputations going forward ...like no one would trust them ever again and that would make them turn to crime more

2017-10-22 20:19:41 UTC  

agreed

2017-10-22 20:20:29 UTC  

The criminals deserve to have some degree of anonymity, you're saying?

2017-10-22 20:20:53 UTC  

depending on the crime, i would say.

2017-10-22 20:21:04 UTC  

yeah of course only the people who have to know and then they would keep tabs on them if they recidivized then the real punishments start

2017-10-22 20:21:29 UTC  

something small like theft, they'd need to punished, however, we don't want to ostracize the perp from the entire community

2017-10-22 20:22:14 UTC  

and also most crime is committed by teenage men...and those same people if focused for good could really be good workers

2017-10-22 20:22:29 UTC  

you just need to turn them into men

2017-10-22 20:22:58 UTC  

if you raise a kid for 18 years and he steals something worth lets say 100 bucks ...very serious crime but you dont throw the baby out with the bath water

2017-10-22 20:24:30 UTC  

if you label him as a criminal well then his wife would end up being the wife of a criminal, their kids would be the children of a criminal, down the line for 1 persons behavior years ago..the only reason you want an ethnostate is to be able to trust each other and there will be bumps, but you dont want to make them worse

2017-10-22 20:26:41 UTC  

It is doubtful that we will really have to worry about crime, but I think giving the criminal some degree of anonymity wouldn't be too harmful. It would give those participating in the public trial chance to speak without bias toward said criminal. I feel in the case with most crimes that might result in some sort of prison term, we could just resort to exile.

2017-10-22 20:27:33 UTC  

exile might not work since its a voluntary association anyway and you kick out someones kid they would probably leave and at best just resent you for splitting the family

2017-10-22 20:29:40 UTC  

and why do you need public trials...public trials should only exist for policy disagreements with the governing body. you dont really need a jury to find someone guilty .either you have enough evidence or you dont of the crime...anything else turns the judicial system into its own economy like we have now and leads people away from actual production

2017-10-22 20:34:49 UTC  

im no law scholar but it always seemed to me a lot of the criminal system was created to protect against tyranny...if there is no threat of tyranny you dont need a lot of protections for suspected criminals

2017-10-22 20:54:46 UTC  

exile means we get to build a wall right 😄

2017-10-22 20:55:33 UTC  

i say we larp as scientologists and no one would want to come near...however the scientologists wiill defintely be looking for their check

2017-10-22 20:55:46 UTC  

I'd definitely want some sort of barrier around the perimiter, if for nothing other than denoting our boundaries

2017-10-22 20:55:51 UTC  

what do you mean larp, we ARE all scientologists

2017-10-22 20:57:25 UTC  

remember guys, talk is cheap, what have you done today to prepare yourself for the future you deserve

2017-10-22 20:58:53 UTC  

david miscavage and his midget army thank you