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2018-03-12 19:36:45 UTC  

the revival of Classical British gentleman

2018-03-13 03:33:10 UTC  

@BottomoftheNinth my dad watches that show. Not too into anything that uses religion for artistic or mass appeal. Even simply recording churches seems off to me so seeing them represent the Pope like that just isn’t very interesting

2018-03-13 16:09:15 UTC  

I'm addicted to tummy fellas can y'all pray to put my lust at ease

2018-03-13 23:12:32 UTC  

Gotta question for the catholics here

2018-03-13 23:13:33 UTC  

I'm not actually catholic but interested in the faith and gave up alcohol for Lent with one of my catholic friends

2018-03-13 23:14:11 UTC  

He's saying because the cardinal here has granted dispensation that means I can drink for St Patty's Day and is encouraging it

2018-03-13 23:14:48 UTC  

But I read the news article about it and it seems to be pretty clear that the dispensation is just for eating meat because St Patty's is on Friday

2018-03-13 23:14:50 UTC  

Thoughts?

2018-03-13 23:48:28 UTC  

Well I think hitting the bar is more likely to lead you to other sins so i can't say its virtuous just pray and you will come up with the answer

2018-03-13 23:58:45 UTC  

That is a consideration I've been weighing, absolutely. Far from guaranteed that I'd be responsible and sensible about it, especially after having not drank for a month.

2018-03-14 02:24:25 UTC  

can you guys send me some prayers feeling pretty sick

2018-03-14 03:18:43 UTC  

Hope you feel better soon king

2018-03-14 05:52:49 UTC  

@Polybius From a purely moral perspective, giving up something for lent is voluntary, as in you do not sin if you break it. The dispensation has nothing to do with what you are abstaining from, it's your choice if you want to break it or not.

2018-03-14 08:55:53 UTC  

how do yall reconcile Evola's teachings with Christianity

2018-03-14 08:56:12 UTC  

since he was anti-Christianity and a perennialist

2018-03-14 13:52:40 UTC  

I went to a mass today and it seems more trad than the Sunday ones

2018-03-14 14:09:24 UTC  

@Nicholas István Good to know. I think I'm just going to stick it out though. What's another two weeks?

2018-03-14 16:49:29 UTC  

Just came back from a 5 days retreat in a benedictine monastery. Feeling sanctified and touched by God's grace. I recommend to all young Catholics to do one every time you can. Not only will it help you deal with your problems, the monastic life teaches to detach yourself from all that is superfluous and to focus on what is truly important, praying and working, everyday and with humility.

2018-03-14 16:53:14 UTC  

@francois le francais where can I find a program like that

2018-03-14 16:59:35 UTC  

Mine was in the Abbey of Notre Dame de fontgombault in France. But you should ask your local priest to find one that is not too far from where you live but also one which is the most appropriate for your needs.

2018-03-14 17:05:16 UTC  

Doubt us Americans have such nice things

2018-03-14 17:09:25 UTC  

Here is benedictine one. It was my first retreat so i dont have much experience but for a young guy like me who is unsure about his future it was very fruitful

2018-03-14 17:09:34 UTC  

@francois le francais that sounds incredible

2018-03-14 17:21:02 UTC  

I couldnt recommend it stronger. It really helps you cleanse your mind and soul from all the BS happening ( especially if youre too much invested in politics ) and opens your ears to God's call and the plan that He has prepared specially for you

2018-03-14 17:47:21 UTC  

@sbbu The general rule of thumb for reading someone like Evola is “take what you like and throw out the rest”

2018-03-14 17:51:40 UTC  

@Polybius Good choice, even if it’s not a moral issue it’s still good for our souls to make sacrifices and stick to them as best we can.

2018-03-14 21:03:05 UTC  

@sbbu I've only read Men Among the Ruins, but he seems supportive of Catholicism, for example:
> Christianity has been largely corrected and mitigated in Catholicism through the aggregation and assimilation of principles from various origins (especially Roman and Classical), as can be seen in the theological domain of Thomism, which would be inconceivable without Aristotelianism.

2018-03-14 21:06:20 UTC  

his criticism of Christianity & Catholicism from that book are more about the modern/liberal/communist influence on the faith, not fundamental problems with Christianity itself

2018-03-14 21:15:53 UTC  

the ideal form of the state he describes is Ghibellinism, the belief that the State has a supernatural origin and function, on par with the Church, with only God above it, e.g. the Holy Roman Empire

2018-03-14 21:31:13 UTC  

he sees Christianity as part of a broader, more universal, more essential tradition, and wants to move in that direction
> something wider, more austere, and more universal than mere Catholicism
> pontifical function preexisted Christianity and were intimately associated with the Roman, pre-Christian idea of sovereignty
> the Knights Templar, [with] their own initiation and esoteric doctrine, reserved to higher degrees, which were not reducible to the mere Christian religiosity
so yeah like @Nicholas István said, there's lots of good stuff to take away from Evola, but probably an equal amount of material that is too impractical, too ideologically pure, too extreme to be useful today

2018-03-14 21:41:45 UTC  

I agree with lots of Evola's points about what's good/bad about Christianity and Catholicism, but I don't think we're ever going to get back to his ideal of a pre-Christian monarchical society founded on the imperium and mannerbund of priestly knights and ascetic warriors bla bla.., so I just focus on what's good about traditional Christianity and stay away from the bad modern parts

2018-03-14 21:45:33 UTC  

that's one reason why I'm Catholic and not protestant or pagan, Catholicism is the most viable model we have for right order in the church, state, and home

2018-03-15 04:41:47 UTC  

The very greatest trick the devil ever pulled, was convincing the world he doesn't exist. I see so much of the world ignorant of evil, complacent in malice of the highest extent it can go. I am disheartened beyond my own prior experiences. I know things are getting better, but dammit, why does it have to go so slowly? Every time that I look out to the world I am disappointed by what I see. I know that this is humanity, this is what we are. But how did we let it go so terribly? What became of us in mind and soul that dropped us so far from decency?

2018-03-15 10:19:04 UTC  

I think we lack faith in God. We constantly have to remind ourselves that Man is nothing without God, accept it with humility and seek refuge in God's loving hands. We put our faith in out leaders and in ourselves instead of Vos and that is why we are constantly disapointed by the actual state of Humanity. I think we should be thanking God for the dark times we live in, because it forces us to realise that our only hope is God and having full confidence in God and not in ourselves.

2018-03-15 20:58:27 UTC  

For all my fellow lifters

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2018-03-16 00:11:43 UTC  

@🎭🎵 delet dis

2018-03-16 01:13:51 UTC  

why

2018-03-16 04:39:41 UTC  

pray for me fellas and I'll pray for you

2018-03-16 04:39:49 UTC  

wanna be a good boy