If im not mistaken most of the founders weren't Catholic

I dunno about this tbh

If the papacy seeks to connect with states they've been doing a very bad job

They have been doing a SHIT job

I mean the Irish are gonna change their Constitution for abortion ffs

So why should we wish to preserve the union if our foundation as a political entity (because ethnically/nationally we were effectively muddled by Lincoln) was inherently heretical?

Eh we do the best by the people here

Is all

Ask Nick not me hes the leader of this whole thing.

I don't think any of us are like die for Israel types

This is a great question to put in the ASK nick channel @Thomas

There's never been a perfectly Catholic country

It's not like we move

True

I have, he only answered it partly. Said he may devote an entire video to it.

I hope he does tbh

I desperately want an answer.

I mean I can tell you that It is viewed as a good thing in the Church to be a patriot

Well it's not a matter of fact that there's ever been a perfectly Catholic country, rather that our country was founded on a neutral type of secular Christianity. A non-denominational type of belief. @🎭🎵

It is good to love the country you were born in, because God placed you there for a reason

weather it is a heretical one or not.

Well why be a patriot of a country which goes again God?

I mean, at least in modernity, we essentially live in a massive Sodom and Gamorrah.

A true Patriot would want to fix his country so that is it inline with Gods commandments

Thats the whole west TBH

Then would we still be our country?

Idk would you consider Catholic americans american?

I mean honestly our race comes first and the church is a very powerful when unified

yee

Well it depends on where their loyalties rest, do they denounce the foundation of the country in favor of their faith? (As any devout man ought to)

Simple question, Is a devout Catholic an american

A catholic who is not a hypocrit

or rather CAN a devout catholic be an american*

That is solely dependent on what they truly believe. Do they believe that the US is contrary to Catholic belief, or do they embrace the heresy upon which we were founded?

Naturally they would reject the heresy.

Then no I don't think they would.

They'd be something different.

So all the italians and poles and czechs that have lived in the north for 100's of years were never really americans?

Well, if they keep their culture with them, and renounce the founding of the country which they come to,

then no.

They weren't.