Message from @Thomas
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The Catholic Idea of Church and State is not for the church to rule the state but for rather Church and State to work together.
in harmony.
I like the idea of a central authority
i just believe the pope should be a genuine good Christian
Then would the foundation of the US be intrinsically heretical in that it deliberately separates church and state? @Deleted User
Correct
If im not mistaken most of the founders weren't Catholic
I dunno about this tbh
If the papacy seeks to connect with states they've been doing a very bad job
They have been doing a SHIT job
I mean the Irish are gonna change their Constitution for abortion ffs
So why should we wish to preserve the union if our foundation as a political entity (because ethnically/nationally we were effectively muddled by Lincoln) was inherently heretical?
Eh we do the best by the people here
Is all
Ask Nick not me hes the leader of this whole thing.
I don't think any of us are like die for Israel types
This is a great question to put in the ASK nick channel @Thomas
There's never been a perfectly Catholic country
It's not like we move
True
I hope he does tbh
I desperately want an answer.
I mean I can tell you that It is viewed as a good thing in the Church to be a patriot
Well it's not a matter of fact that there's ever been a perfectly Catholic country, rather that our country was founded on a neutral type of secular Christianity. A non-denominational type of belief. @ðŸŽðŸŽµ
It is good to love the country you were born in, because God placed you there for a reason
weather it is a heretical one or not.
Well why be a patriot of a country which goes again God?
I mean, at least in modernity, we essentially live in a massive Sodom and Gamorrah.
A true Patriot would want to fix his country so that is it inline with Gods commandments
Thats the whole west TBH
Then would we still be our country?
Idk would you consider Catholic americans american?
I mean honestly our race comes first and the church is a very powerful when unified
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Well it depends on where their loyalties rest, do they denounce the foundation of the country in favor of their faith? (As any devout man ought to)
Simple question, Is a devout Catholic an american
A catholic who is not a hypocrit
or rather CAN a devout catholic be an american*
That is solely dependent on what they truly believe. Do they believe that the US is contrary to Catholic belief, or do they embrace the heresy upon which we were founded?
Naturally they would reject the heresy.