Message from @Thomas
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Idk if om going to get banned for this but quite frankly i think the current pope is a traitor who advocates for muslims and nonwhites to destroy our homelands
You are fine Nick thinks this pope is lame and so do a lot of catholics
how can we retake the papacy without literally becoming cardinals?
If u don't like the pope go to orthodox
@Thomas The founder fathers by catholic and eastern orthodox standards were heretics
The Authority of the Pope is Dogmatic, the pope has no reason to rule directly over any given nation besides rome.
Are they in hell?
It is Catholic teaching that it is a general mystery as to weather someone is in hell or not, naturally of course you have a very low chance of being saved if you are not Catholic, however it is still possible.
The way we used to look at is was that Kings ruled in the place of God over their kingdom, thus naturally they would work together with the Pope.
The Catholic Idea of Church and State is not for the church to rule the state but for rather Church and State to work together.
in harmony.
I like the idea of a central authority
i just believe the pope should be a genuine good Christian
Then would the foundation of the US be intrinsically heretical in that it deliberately separates church and state? @Deleted User
Correct
If im not mistaken most of the founders weren't Catholic
I dunno about this tbh
If the papacy seeks to connect with states they've been doing a very bad job
They have been doing a SHIT job
I mean the Irish are gonna change their Constitution for abortion ffs
So why should we wish to preserve the union if our foundation as a political entity (because ethnically/nationally we were effectively muddled by Lincoln) was inherently heretical?
Eh we do the best by the people here
Is all
Ask Nick not me hes the leader of this whole thing.
I don't think any of us are like die for Israel types
This is a great question to put in the ASK nick channel @Thomas
There's never been a perfectly Catholic country
It's not like we move
True
I have, he only answered it partly. Said he may devote an entire video to it.
I hope he does tbh
I desperately want an answer.
I mean I can tell you that It is viewed as a good thing in the Church to be a patriot
Well it's not a matter of fact that there's ever been a perfectly Catholic country, rather that our country was founded on a neutral type of secular Christianity. A non-denominational type of belief. @ðŸŽðŸŽµ
It is good to love the country you were born in, because God placed you there for a reason
weather it is a heretical one or not.
Well why be a patriot of a country which goes again God?
I mean, at least in modernity, we essentially live in a massive Sodom and Gamorrah.
A true Patriot would want to fix his country so that is it inline with Gods commandments
Thats the whole west TBH
Then would we still be our country?