Message from @Georges_Cross

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2018-05-20 03:37:29 UTC  

Corinthians 14:33 “For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.”

2018-05-20 03:43:04 UTC  

The current Pope says the Catholic church now agrees with Protestants on justification (the main issue of the reformation), do you disagree that salvation is through faith alone? There is no competent exegesis of the Biblical canon that edorses any of the things you listed. Your Catholic church would kill real Christians for simply having a copy of the Lord's prayer in English. It was never about truth, it was about control. Christ teaches us that if we want to be great to become the servant of all, the Catholic church did the exact opposite and elevated a priestly class above the common people and hid God's Word from them. It shoved a false gospel of works down their throats and robbed them of the peace of their salvations. One of the most vile and debauch insitutions man has ever created. The devils sold indulgences to poor and naive peasants promising them salvation if they only make the coffers of the church a little fatter. They didn't even stop there, theu then taught that you needed to buy indulgences to get your dead loved ones out of purgatory. A literal fraud being conducted by the representatives of Christ on earth. Sick.

2018-05-20 03:44:12 UTC  

James 2:24 You see then that a man is justified by works, and not by faith only.

2018-05-20 03:44:12 UTC  

The Catholic church isn't even just wrong, it's demonic.

2018-05-20 03:44:40 UTC  

Martin luther rejects scripture he is one with satan

2018-05-20 03:44:47 UTC  

You misunderstand the passage. James is saying that He proves his faith by his works.

2018-05-20 03:45:04 UTC  

Have you read James 2 in context?

2018-05-20 03:45:39 UTC  

Yes without faith there is no salvation. But not on faith alone are you saved. Yes I have read James

2018-05-20 03:46:21 UTC  

"Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law."
-Romans 3:28

2018-05-20 03:47:24 UTC  

John 20:23, Jesus tells His disciples, “If you forgive anyone his sins, they are forgiven; if you do not forgive them, they are not forgiven."

2018-05-20 03:47:54 UTC  

^ the scriptural justification of confession

2018-05-20 03:48:28 UTC  

If you have saving faith, your heart is transformed and you have works, but works cannot save someone. Faith alone saves. This is why the just live by faith (Romans 1:17)

2018-05-20 03:49:32 UTC  

Living by faith results in good work for by their fruits you shall know them

2018-05-20 03:49:52 UTC  

Teaching to forgive isn't justification for confession. There's actually a passage in 1 John that literally says if we confess our sins He is faithful and just to forgive us, but even that isn't saying to confess to a man who is elevated to an authority.

2018-05-20 03:50:10 UTC  

If you are not in communion with the church or the sacraments you have no faith

2018-05-20 03:50:33 UTC  

Lutherans actively reject the bride of christ you do not have faith in christs church

2018-05-20 03:51:05 UTC  

Church is a spiritual body of followers of Christ, not a demonic institution claiming to be it.

2018-05-20 03:51:11 UTC  

Lutherans schism is of the lack of believe in church authority the sacraments and the ability for God to keep the church from error

2018-05-20 03:51:42 UTC  

Your error is thinking than organization was/ever will be the church.

2018-05-20 03:51:43 UTC  

Peter is the rock of the church

2018-05-20 03:51:53 UTC  

you have built your church on sand

2018-05-20 03:52:12 UTC  

Peter would rebuke the entire concept of the Catholic church.

2018-05-20 03:52:41 UTC  

You have no Apostolic succession, no authority, no love, no fruit, and no truth.

2018-05-20 03:52:46 UTC  

what would he rebuke

2018-05-20 03:53:03 UTC  

no you have no apostolic succession

2018-05-20 03:53:14 UTC  

The Catholic church is carnality dressed up like Spirituality.

2018-05-20 03:53:14 UTC  

15th century

2018-05-20 03:53:24 UTC  

where is the link with the saints

2018-05-20 03:53:36 UTC  

1500 years of God's church being wrong

2018-05-20 03:53:48 UTC  

do you not have faith in God to remove confusion

2018-05-20 03:54:04 UTC  

Apostolic succession as you understand it isn't Biblical.

2018-05-20 03:54:28 UTC  

Well how did saul become a apostle of christ

2018-05-20 03:54:36 UTC  

by authority of peter

2018-05-20 03:54:46 UTC  

The Catholic church was wrong (objectively) on many things. Do you support the selling of indulgences?

2018-05-20 03:55:09 UTC  

The selling of indulgences were abused but morally the concept is not wrong

2018-05-20 03:55:39 UTC  

There was always a real church. They were the ones your demonic organization was burning alive for having the Bible in their language.

2018-05-20 03:56:00 UTC  

no there wasn't you have made this up the catholic faith was the real church

2018-05-20 03:56:18 UTC  

I wan't evidence

2018-05-20 03:56:20 UTC  

You think indulgences are permitted? You think man has the authority to sell salvation? You think faith in Christ can be sold?

2018-05-20 03:57:13 UTC  

No the clergy who have inheritted the will of the apostles have the God given right to assign pennance for repenting of sins

2018-05-20 03:57:30 UTC  

if that is giving to charity or the work of the church