Message from @Georges_Cross

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2018-05-20 03:47:24 UTC  

John 20:23, Jesus tells His disciples, “If you forgive anyone his sins, they are forgiven; if you do not forgive them, they are not forgiven."

2018-05-20 03:47:54 UTC  

^ the scriptural justification of confession

2018-05-20 03:48:28 UTC  

If you have saving faith, your heart is transformed and you have works, but works cannot save someone. Faith alone saves. This is why the just live by faith (Romans 1:17)

2018-05-20 03:49:32 UTC  

Living by faith results in good work for by their fruits you shall know them

2018-05-20 03:49:52 UTC  

Teaching to forgive isn't justification for confession. There's actually a passage in 1 John that literally says if we confess our sins He is faithful and just to forgive us, but even that isn't saying to confess to a man who is elevated to an authority.

2018-05-20 03:50:10 UTC  

If you are not in communion with the church or the sacraments you have no faith

2018-05-20 03:50:33 UTC  

Lutherans actively reject the bride of christ you do not have faith in christs church

2018-05-20 03:51:05 UTC  

Church is a spiritual body of followers of Christ, not a demonic institution claiming to be it.

2018-05-20 03:51:11 UTC  

Lutherans schism is of the lack of believe in church authority the sacraments and the ability for God to keep the church from error

2018-05-20 03:51:42 UTC  

Your error is thinking than organization was/ever will be the church.

2018-05-20 03:51:43 UTC  

Peter is the rock of the church

2018-05-20 03:51:53 UTC  

you have built your church on sand

2018-05-20 03:52:12 UTC  

Peter would rebuke the entire concept of the Catholic church.

2018-05-20 03:52:41 UTC  

You have no Apostolic succession, no authority, no love, no fruit, and no truth.

2018-05-20 03:52:46 UTC  

what would he rebuke

2018-05-20 03:53:03 UTC  

no you have no apostolic succession

2018-05-20 03:53:14 UTC  

The Catholic church is carnality dressed up like Spirituality.

2018-05-20 03:53:14 UTC  

15th century

2018-05-20 03:53:24 UTC  

where is the link with the saints

2018-05-20 03:53:36 UTC  

1500 years of God's church being wrong

2018-05-20 03:53:48 UTC  

do you not have faith in God to remove confusion

2018-05-20 03:54:04 UTC  

Apostolic succession as you understand it isn't Biblical.

2018-05-20 03:54:28 UTC  

Well how did saul become a apostle of christ

2018-05-20 03:54:36 UTC  

by authority of peter

2018-05-20 03:54:46 UTC  

The Catholic church was wrong (objectively) on many things. Do you support the selling of indulgences?

2018-05-20 03:55:09 UTC  

The selling of indulgences were abused but morally the concept is not wrong

2018-05-20 03:55:39 UTC  

There was always a real church. They were the ones your demonic organization was burning alive for having the Bible in their language.

2018-05-20 03:56:00 UTC  

no there wasn't you have made this up the catholic faith was the real church

2018-05-20 03:56:18 UTC  

I wan't evidence

2018-05-20 03:56:20 UTC  

You think indulgences are permitted? You think man has the authority to sell salvation? You think faith in Christ can be sold?

2018-05-20 03:57:13 UTC  

No the clergy who have inheritted the will of the apostles have the God given right to assign pennance for repenting of sins

2018-05-20 03:57:30 UTC  

if that is giving to charity or the work of the church

2018-05-20 03:57:41 UTC  

that is doctrinally justified

2018-05-20 03:58:15 UTC  

You can't sell believe on Christ. So you either believe. Are you saying faith in Christ doesn't save?

2018-05-20 03:58:54 UTC  

Your clergy inherited gluttony and murder, but never any real spritual authority I'm afraid. None. Zip. Nothing.

2018-05-20 03:59:03 UTC  

Man cannot sell salvation.

2018-05-20 03:59:10 UTC  

you have heard my objection to lutheran heresy you haven't disproved my point your heresy sows confusion so is from lucifer

2018-05-20 03:59:48 UTC  

"Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling."
-Phillippians 2:12

2018-05-20 04:00:42 UTC  

^ This is about working for your salvation

2018-05-20 04:00:45 UTC  

I literally demolished your lazy James 2:24 garbage. Same thing every Catholic says. I had to explain to you what James was saying.

2018-05-20 04:01:34 UTC  

Man must come to His own knowledge of Christ. It cannot be sold to him.