Message from @Scooter2000

Discord ID: 464983388353200148


2018-07-07 02:29:57 UTC  

Should we have any laws based on morality?

2018-07-07 02:31:22 UTC  

God does not tolerate error. He exposes it so it is not repeated, showcasing all of the death that comes from it.

2018-07-07 02:31:48 UTC  

So should we have any laws based on morality?

2018-07-07 02:32:00 UTC  

I mean do we have any duty to govern even our own behaviour?

2018-07-07 02:32:13 UTC  

As said by the Apostle:

2018-07-07 02:32:32 UTC  

"For I think that God hath set forth us the apostles last, as it were appointed to death: **for we are made a spectacle unto the world, and to angels, and to men**."
Paul the Apostle, 1 Corinthians 4:9

2018-07-07 02:32:46 UTC  

So

2018-07-07 02:32:49 UTC  

Yes or no?

2018-07-07 02:33:13 UTC  

Yes we do have the duty, however we cannot do it in fully in our sinful state. We must let God's Son do it for us.

2018-07-07 02:33:25 UTC  

Which means what

2018-07-07 02:33:58 UTC  

By letting Christ's divine character manifest in your actions, speech, personality, etc. you will reflect the character of God -- who has never sinned.

2018-07-07 02:34:08 UTC  

Which means what

2018-07-07 02:34:41 UTC  

I'm not sure what you're asking.

2018-07-07 02:34:49 UTC  

I'm asking you what that means practically

2018-07-07 02:35:10 UTC  

I get that it's a conveniently flattering position to hold rhetorically

2018-07-07 02:36:11 UTC  

If you're not Christian, it seems like rhetoric. But if you do believe in the Gospel, you understand Jesus was the Passover Lamb for the Jew and Gentile. Meaning, by believing in the merits of a crucified and risen savior, you can overcome sin through Christ. Not your own works.

2018-07-07 02:36:34 UTC  

Yeah well again that's convenient rhetoric

2018-07-07 02:36:50 UTC  

Because that doesn't actually tell me anything

2018-07-07 02:36:59 UTC  

Relevant to the question

2018-07-07 02:37:48 UTC  

"Christians" are those who follow Christ -- the anointed one. Practically, your life should resemble the life of the Son of God.

2018-07-07 02:37:58 UTC  

What
Does
That
Entail

2018-07-07 02:38:10 UTC  

Cause I could give you an extremely clear answer

2018-07-07 02:38:14 UTC  

You don't seem capable of that

2018-07-07 02:38:20 UTC  

Living in accordance with the Ten Commandments.

2018-07-07 02:38:25 UTC  

Ok good.

2018-07-07 02:39:08 UTC  

I apologize if I'm not being clear. I assumed you knew the character of Christ already. And how he never sinned, and fulfilled the law.

2018-07-07 02:39:19 UTC  

If you don't know these things, then yes what I said earlier may have seemed like rhetoric. It's not.

2018-07-07 02:39:29 UTC  

I do know these things

2018-07-07 02:39:42 UTC  

This is how people who don't have answers speak - sanctimoniously

2018-07-07 02:40:16 UTC  

If there is a moral law which we know and man has no right to error then why would we enthrone as good, right and desirable policies which oppose that moral law?

2018-07-07 02:40:18 UTC  

Jesus kept the ten commandments. Those who follow Christ do as well.

2018-07-07 02:40:22 UTC  

"Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus."
Revelation 14:12

2018-07-07 02:40:48 UTC  

For the same reason God didn't smite Satan.

2018-07-07 02:40:55 UTC  

He rebuked Satan

2018-07-07 02:41:07 UTC  

he was cast from heaven
removed from the life of grace

2018-07-07 02:41:14 UTC  

He will smite Satan, but only after he has fulfilled his purpose: Exposing evil to the angels who never knew sin.

2018-07-07 02:41:15 UTC  

he was clearly punished

2018-07-07 02:41:40 UTC  

we know from sacred scripture that at the final judgement Satan will be punished and those who reject God will also be punished

2018-07-07 02:41:48 UTC  

See what I said above

2018-07-07 02:41:56 UTC  

And so justice is clearly a virtue

2018-07-07 02:42:02 UTC  

I agree