Well many people are pretty unfit for a society and that’s because of self interest instead of truth

Not to imply a hive mind but as a collection

Truth is in man's self interest

But even the “unfit” have a place, as long as you define what that is

He cant exist as a looter

How?

You are deemed unfit as violation of ones rights

A looter preys on mans rationality as he cant sustain himself

I agree there

He will never be happy or flourish he is only stagnate

even concept of right is hilarious
there should be no right but just authority

You mean the means to justify any atrocity committed against the individual?

Of course, looters don’t have a place in this society. That doesn’t mean we should kill them, but expulsion should occur.
I mean criminals were kicked to Australia and it’s doing well now lol.

I’m jk there

No, authority should seek to point society in the right direction

The group whilst authority being justified as acting in societies arbitrary interests

And then break down into an organic state where people do what they love and reach their full potential

Well that’s the idea...

Not sure I agreed it would work when I read that part

@not a profoundly dapper person Death should be considered but jail is still an option

True

Punishment is very tricky and I haven't totally thought it out

jail is not optional
forced suicide must be only punishment

laws that were broken and are not worth of such punishment should not even be considered as laws

We are trying to fix the problem not force obedience to the highest degree

only way to fix society is for weak to suffer

Calm down there Nietzsche

Morality is not like that

I can force you to do the right thing but if I force you you dont reap the pleasure of doing something moral

This is self evident and im sure you can draw the concretes yourself

only blood can fix problems morality has caused

Except if everyone is compulsed to do something pleasure cannot exist

Mans motivator for his actions

Pleasure is poison to earth

only men born in suffering can live real lives

Without pleasure man is condemned to suffering

Pleasure is also a guardian to an organisms life

The pleasure-pain mechanism in the body of man—and in the bodies of all the living organisms that possess the faculty of consciousness—serves as an automatic guardian of the organism’s life. The physical sensation of pleasure is a signal indicating that the organism is pursuing the right course of action. The physical sensation of pain is a warning signal of danger, indicating that the organism is pursuing the wrong course of action, that something is impairing the proper function of its body, which requires action to correct it. The best illustration of this can be seen in the rare, freak cases of children who are born without the capacity to experience physical pain; such children do not survive for long; they have no means of discovering what can injure them, no warning signals, and thus a minor cut can develop into a deadly infection, or a major illness can remain undetected until it is too late to fight it.

The Virtue of Selfishness “The Objectivist Ethics,”
The Virtue of Selfishness, 17

The form in which man experiences the reality of his values is pleasure . . . . A chronic lack of pleasure, of any enjoyable, rewarding or stimulating experiences, produces a slow, gradual, day-by-day erosion of man’s emotional vitality, which he may ignore or repress, but which is recorded by the relentless computer of his subconscious mechanism that registers an ebbing flow, then a trickle, then a few last drops of fuel—until the day when his inner motor stops and he wonders desperately why he has no desire to go on, unable to find any definable cause of his hopeless, chronic sense of exhaustion.

people who can't live without pleasure don't deserve life at all

If pleasure cant exist neither can happiness