Humans rights are whats best for human flourishing in a societal context

lol

Societal LARPer

As rational beings

humans are most irrational beings

Rationality is a choice

civilization destroyed humans long ago

@Existence is identity I guess you make a good point there.

Man holds these rights, not from the Collective nor for the Collective, but against the Collective—as a barrier which the Collective cannot cross; . . . these rights are man’s protection against all other men.

one nuclear war would fix all problems

Usually rights have to be earned

Rights are revoked once you are deemed(on an individual level) unfit for society and their interests

>not rising up against society

Well many people are pretty unfit for a society and that’s because of self interest instead of truth

Not to imply a hive mind but as a collection

Truth is in man's self interest

But even the “unfit” have a place, as long as you define what that is

He cant exist as a looter

How?

You are deemed unfit as violation of ones rights

A looter preys on mans rationality as he cant sustain himself

I agree there

He will never be happy or flourish he is only stagnate

even concept of right is hilarious
there should be no right but just authority

You mean the means to justify any atrocity committed against the individual?

Of course, looters don’t have a place in this society. That doesn’t mean we should kill them, but expulsion should occur.
I mean criminals were kicked to Australia and it’s doing well now lol.

I’m jk there

No, authority should seek to point society in the right direction

The group whilst authority being justified as acting in societies arbitrary interests

And then break down into an organic state where people do what they love and reach their full potential

Well that’s the idea...

Not sure I agreed it would work when I read that part

@not a profoundly dapper person Death should be considered but jail is still an option

True

Punishment is very tricky and I haven't totally thought it out

jail is not optional
forced suicide must be only punishment

laws that were broken and are not worth of such punishment should not even be considered as laws

We are trying to fix the problem not force obedience to the highest degree

only way to fix society is for weak to suffer

Calm down there Nietzsche

Morality is not like that