Message from @Nicholas István
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Hello Irishgang
I am also Irish and would like to know
What can you tell me about the Celts?
And is it true that some Englishmen are also celts themselves
That is true yeah
They'd be correct in a certain sense that the Anglo Saxons didn't entirely replace the native Britons, but the culture and mindset of the English has always been antithetical to the broader Celtic one that the rest of us share
They'd only be Celts to the extent someone living in Romania could claim to be to a Roman
French nationalists claim something similar they call themselves Gauls, tho that makes sense to distinguish themselves from Germans, their greatest rivals
In the English nationalist context it's mostly a disingenuous attempt at having a claim of brotherhood with the other people's of the region
If you want to know about the Celts I recommend reading Nora Chadwick's book on them and watching a YouTube channel who's name I forgot but I'll post in a sec
Not this one but it's a good video anyway
@Augustus InFuccsticks this is the guy
@NormanLord One might almost say... the English have become... Anglo-Celtic...
Instead of Anglo-Saxon
what's he talking about
porn star complaining about getting dick pics in dms
I mean like
dick pics wouldnt exist if women didnt want them right?
thats just how the free market works
Women (male)
@AngloCelticRebel It all depends on what you mean by Celtic, the English don't belong to a cultural or linguistic group which could be described as Celtic, if anything the English have been characterised by standing in opposition to the cultural, metaphysical and spiritual substance of the Celtic worldview, such as can be pieced together. If you mean the English are Celts by blood then you'd have to find a genetic Celt to point to in the first place, which you couldn't, the Celts who came to these islands only came in as limited numbers as the Saxons or Vikings did, their genetic impact was far less than their cultural, something like 90% of people in the British isles (for want of a better term) are descended from either paleo or Neolithic settlers, the farther west and North you go from London the lower the % of the latter
It's a question I've been grappling with for quite a while myself
@NormanLord In an 1869 publication, the term was contrasted with Anglo-Saxon as a more appropriate term for people of Irish and British descent worldwide:
"Anglo-Saxon," as applied to the modern British people, and Britannic race, I believe every impartial scholar will agree with me in thinking a gross misnomer. For if it can be shown that there is a large Celtic element even in the population of England itself, still more unquestionable is this, not only with regard to the populations the British Isles generally, but also with reference to the English-speaking peoples of America and Australasia. Even the English are rather Anglo-Celts than Anglo Saxons; and still more certainly is Anglo-Celtic a more accurate term than Anglo-Saxon, not only for that British nationality which includes the Scots, the Irish and the Welsh; but also for that Britannic race, chief elements in the formation of which have been Welsh, Scottish and Irish immigrants.
I'd say it's an accurate and fitting term for Oz alright yeah
And NZ, Canada etc
But unmixed English people (which is actually rarer than you'd think, most English families have Irish, Scots or Welsh somewhere) from England being Celtic, that's the sticking point
I would hesitate to call the people who wiped out the last redoubts of Celtic civilisation Celts
It strikes me as a term used to gloss over the very real distinctions between the English and the Celtic people's than it does anything else