Message from @Logrian

Discord ID: 639141171767017473


2019-10-30 16:26:08 UTC  

Wich is odd because those 2 are unrelated so it's wierd

2019-10-30 16:27:28 UTC  

not really

2019-10-30 16:27:59 UTC  

they don't imply each other nor do they contradict each other

2019-10-30 16:28:10 UTC  

So.its odd to have it included as one

2019-10-30 16:30:34 UTC  

how would it be of I had a word that means someone that likes steak and lives in Alaska
and I call that word Alaskan

2019-10-30 16:30:49 UTC  

Morning u globies =)

2019-10-30 16:31:14 UTC  

Afternoon then =)

2019-10-30 16:32:03 UTC  

Ye

2019-10-30 16:33:02 UTC  

I've had.someone define truther as someone who believes in the truth of flat Earth and (insert conspiracy theory)

Well in that case I don't believe any truthers exist

2019-10-30 16:34:30 UTC  

saying X believes in the truth of Y

implies Y is true to begin with

and if I don't believe Y then I don't believe the statement

2019-10-30 16:35:06 UTC  

modus tolens

2019-10-30 16:35:34 UTC  

depends upon evidence for each

2019-10-30 16:36:21 UTC  

evidence for what

2019-10-30 16:36:41 UTC  
2019-10-30 16:36:53 UTC  

either

2019-10-30 16:37:31 UTC  

you can believe A because Y said it, but if researched the evidence shows B to be correct you then go with B, k

2019-10-30 16:38:04 UTC  

that's not what's going on here

2019-10-30 16:38:18 UTC  

it is

2019-10-30 16:38:38 UTC  

Most start with believeing A

2019-10-30 16:38:47 UTC  

because we;'re told dont question

2019-10-30 16:38:50 UTC  

dont think

2019-10-30 16:39:01 UTC  

then when we wake up we find the evidence is for Y

2019-10-30 16:39:06 UTC  

I've been told to think entire life

2019-10-30 16:39:33 UTC  

thats because your old

2019-10-30 16:39:39 UTC  

You don't know what's going on here

2019-10-30 16:39:40 UTC  

the youngsters arent told this

2019-10-30 16:39:45 UTC  

I'm 21

2019-10-30 16:39:59 UTC  

I was addressing a deffimition

2019-10-30 16:40:10 UTC  

ah, that explains it

2019-10-30 16:41:17 UTC  

if the deffinition for Y inserts X to be true in it's deffinition
and I don't believe X
Then I can't believe any Y exists

2019-10-30 16:42:29 UTC  

due to modus tolens
believe Y implies believe X
not (believe X)
therefore
not (believe Y)

2019-10-30 16:48:09 UTC  

modus tolens = {((P -> Q) & ~Q) -> ~P}

2019-10-30 18:11:34 UTC  

xD

2019-10-30 18:11:47 UTC  

i didnt really like the implication operator

2019-10-30 18:12:00 UTC  

and i keep forgetting so easy about it

2019-10-30 19:05:57 UTC  

Far as that hole: though there are factors like I brought up earlier, Cambrian explosion, there are other things like how DNA would have to be semi-perfect to line up with natural selection that would lead to animals in general actually @negatic

2019-10-30 19:21:11 UTC  

DNA would have to be semi-perfect ? please explain

2019-10-30 19:23:12 UTC  

(if you wanna argue there too few mutations then i can say mutations are not the only way to produce changes in the genes the other more common way is by sexual reproduction)

2019-10-30 19:23:53 UTC  

there is a process that randomly selects parts from the father and the mother which then gets put together in this process you have often some kind of errors or mixing from genes appear that can cause changes in the genes

2019-10-30 19:24:42 UTC  

ofc unviable dna leads to dying fetuses or death in early childhood etc (imagen tumor that kills you early on caused by gene defect)

2019-10-30 19:25:11 UTC  

we for example know such things happen often even today and in the past those humans/animals died before they could reproduce etc