Message from @Doc34

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2018-08-27 04:09:41 UTC  

It's really easy to see the Asiatic influence in some Russians

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/481597551272001546/483488247704584259/MishaFeat.jpg

2018-08-27 04:10:37 UTC  

Hmm. That's interesting. Weren't the Cossacks well known as cavalrymen?

2018-08-27 04:11:18 UTC  

Do you have any recommendations on a more general Russian history book? I have a gift card to Barnes and Noble I need to use

2018-08-27 04:12:20 UTC  

@Doc34 Yes

2018-08-27 04:12:28 UTC  

Misha is still a monster

2018-08-27 04:12:50 UTC  

Soviet mystery meat. lmfao

2018-08-27 04:13:41 UTC  

Thanks

2018-08-27 04:15:44 UTC  

Okay. I really have no experience with Russian history aside from a few youtube videos so this will all be new to me

2018-08-27 04:18:38 UTC  

it's good, still listening to it

2018-08-27 04:19:59 UTC  

Where can I this lol. Is it on youtube

2018-08-27 04:21:46 UTC  

That's super cool. I remember I started getting into them after seeing a bunch of amazing photos of Cossack Cavalrymen in their full uniforms posing during a reunion or something

2018-08-27 04:22:04 UTC  

Can anyone plug me to the slav server

2018-08-27 04:22:05 UTC  

I think they were veterans of the Crimean War

2018-08-27 04:27:08 UTC  

It’s definitely one I’m interested in seeing as it’s left out of a lot of western history courses I’ve taken

2018-08-27 04:28:04 UTC  

That seems to be a pattern in a lot of Russian Military history

2018-08-27 04:28:12 UTC  

At least from what I’ve seen

2018-08-27 04:28:43 UTC  

^

2018-08-27 04:29:15 UTC  

they might be outdated or inferior, but damn if they don't have alot of em

2018-08-27 04:30:17 UTC  

Europe would be the opposite militarily

2018-08-27 04:32:04 UTC  

Is this alt hype video a blackpill video

2018-08-27 04:32:06 UTC  

I’m scared

2018-08-27 04:32:47 UTC  

Darn

2018-08-27 04:39:22 UTC  

I’ve never listened to this guy before. Who is he?

2018-08-27 04:39:29 UTC  

Referring to the alt hype

2018-08-27 04:39:59 UTC  

@Bjorn - MD Cossacks are actually pure Slavs for the most part. They have their origins in the Orthodox Ruthenians who moved to the Ukrainian frontier of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth before it was annexed by Russia. The name Cossack is Turkic in origin and means something along the lines of bandit or outlaw but it was given to them by Tatars and other Turkic Muslim peoples because of the Cossack's penchant for raiding Tatar settlements.

2018-08-27 04:40:27 UTC  

@Doc34 Alternative Hypothesis is /ourguy/ that does a lot of research to backup all that he's saying about multiculturalism/race/etc

2018-08-27 04:40:38 UTC  

Definitely worth a listen.

2018-08-27 04:41:07 UTC  

@Asatru Artist - MD Yeah I like him already. Even though this video makes me a little sad lol

2018-08-27 04:41:14 UTC  

lol

2018-08-27 04:41:30 UTC  

Now I’m on the Spencer part and it’s not depressing but damn.

2018-08-27 04:42:02 UTC  

He’s basically given up on any form of Pan-European Identity

2018-08-27 04:46:30 UTC  

@Bjorn - MD You sure about that? I've read that the early Terek Cossacks were Orthodox Ossetians , but the largest groups, the Kuban and Don Cossacks are Slavs.

2018-08-27 04:53:59 UTC  

IE history club when?

2018-08-27 04:54:35 UTC  

@Bjorn - MD I'm not sure they mixed with enough Tatars to have an overall effect on the Don Cossack gene pool. Tatars were the sworn enemies of the Cossacks, plus they were Muslim, so intermarriage was probably heavily discouraged.

2018-08-27 05:01:00 UTC  

@Bjorn - MD To be fair though, I've read that a lot of the Slavs up by Murmansk mixed heavily with the local pre-Slavic Finnish tribes. So maybe that's why their a little lighter in complexion.

2018-08-27 05:09:05 UTC  

I dunno know about all that, I definitely agree that there is a lot Sarmatian admixture, at least in South Russians and Ukrainians. But the Mongol and Turkic elements in ethnic Russians is minimal to non-extistant. Russian peasants were essentially forbidden to marry outside their ethnic groups, so the few Russians who do have distant Mongol-Turkic ancestry are usually descended from the aristocracy, but those people are few and far between. This website here has pretty good data on the exact genetic composition of ethnic Russians.http://www.khazaria.com/genetics/russians.html

2018-08-27 05:13:29 UTC  

I think that is just the name of the website, not sure if I buy the Khazar theory either, but their data is still pretty good.

2018-08-27 05:17:12 UTC  

@Bjorn - MD I believe I've seen genetic studies on the Ashkenazim that say that are of mixed European and Middle-Eastern Semitic decent. Of course that doesn't mean all that much because most Turkic people are only linguistically Turkic and not genetically Turkic.

2018-08-27 05:23:13 UTC  

@Bjorn - MD I have to say I respect the guy does his research, I'm rewatching this because I feel like there is something probably buried in here that we could take away from it