Message from @Gwaihyr

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2018-08-27 21:09:58 UTC  

Trump's presidency is legislatively finished if the Democrats take the House in the midterms, and there will be multiple high-profile investigations they will begin with their voting majority and all will receive large amounts of cable airtime, giving them everything they need to promote their presidential favorites to a national stage

2018-08-27 21:10:07 UTC  

@Rabbidsith is correct

2018-08-27 21:10:51 UTC  

It is. We shouldn't tie our fortunes to Trump. Besides, Machiavelli said that one should not risk one's entire fortune without the support of one's entire forces.

2018-08-27 21:11:08 UTC  

I don't know why they would impeach Trump when they get 2 years to twist the GOP any way they want to

2018-08-27 21:11:18 UTC  

We can't rely on every member of our race. Ergo, we must remain flexible.

2018-08-27 21:12:42 UTC  

@Patrick Thank you. You are also correct. Trump has the Sword of Damocles over his head right now. We should question whether we want that blade over our head as well.

2018-08-27 21:14:02 UTC  

@Patrick They would impeach him because Trump is a symbol. Furthermore, Mike Pence would be much easier to manipulate.

2018-08-27 21:16:34 UTC  

Pence lacks Trump's negotiating skills.

2018-08-27 21:17:07 UTC  

He would be a standard neo-con. In other words, they would already have working talking points to influence Pence.

2018-08-27 21:17:31 UTC  

@The Eternal Anglo IE I can imagine would do some light-handed campaigning for Trump. Unless it doesn't do that, which would result in much less publicity for us, IE would take at least a small hit if he loses. It just depends on what the climate is like in 2020

2018-08-27 21:17:59 UTC  

It's always a risk

2018-08-27 21:18:05 UTC  

Let's talk about the November elections rather than the 2020 elections.

2018-08-27 21:18:24 UTC  

It's a more pressing concern.

2018-08-27 21:18:38 UTC  

I know where my State stands.

2018-08-27 21:19:29 UTC  

However, I think that it would be prudent to continue to put pressure on the Rust Belt to stop it from cucking again.

2018-08-27 21:20:08 UTC  

Remember: we can't let Ohio fall. Every Republican president that has ever won (to my knowledge) has also flipped Ohio.

2018-08-27 21:20:37 UTC  

That's where we should focus the majority of our efforts.

2018-08-27 21:21:03 UTC  

Utah seems to be a prime candidate for new recruits. Ergo, I will be working on that.

2018-08-27 21:22:16 UTC  

Hello all

2018-08-27 21:22:22 UTC  

I think that the plan should look like this: 1. Save the Rust Belt. 2. Build influence. 3. Focus on PR.

2018-08-27 21:22:23 UTC  

checking in from KS

2018-08-27 21:23:27 UTC  

@Rabbidsith How is Utah politically. I've been there many times, but all I know is that you guys had your very own John McCuck in Orrin Hatch. I believe I heard he was finally going to give us a rest this year? Any alternative to the bland and leftist-approved Mitt Romney? We're looking pretty good here in Georgia unless that criminal, lively-vibrant the Democrats are running for governor wins. I shudder to think. We also have a senator who desperately needs go home and take his pension.

2018-08-27 21:24:14 UTC  

Utah is a Republican controlled state with a sizeable Leftist population held in check mostly by gerrymandering.

2018-08-27 21:24:26 UTC  

Most people are quite conservative however.

2018-08-27 21:24:57 UTC  

The Church wields enormous influence over politics. Although, it's power has been waning as of late.

2018-08-27 21:25:51 UTC  

For now, it will remain a vanguard red state. However, that may change in the future if the GOP doesn't focus on the Millennial Conservatives.

2018-08-27 21:26:29 UTC  

*Note: The Leftists by no means make up a majority. However, they could flip a House seat or two depending on their turnout rates.

2018-08-27 21:26:45 UTC  

@OMGDwayne sounds like you’re coping

2018-08-27 21:26:52 UTC  

@OMGDwayne how's the governor's race looking?
i'd rather not see Stone Mountain destroyed in my lifetime

2018-08-27 21:28:04 UTC  

He's an idiot.

2018-08-27 21:28:39 UTC  

He's the single worst influence in the Utah GOP. He's a fossil that needs to be buried.

2018-08-27 21:29:48 UTC  

The GOP in this state has huge problems with being one of the last bastions of the Evangelical Conservative movement.

2018-08-27 21:30:04 UTC  

i've noticed many boomers are quite upset that trump caved to the left and lowered the flag again today.
goes to show you that appeasing the left does more harm than good

2018-08-27 21:30:19 UTC  

Their intolerance towards the Drug War and their lack of hard support for the 2nd amendment worries me.

2018-08-27 21:30:34 UTC  

I'd say that they are soft Republicans.

2018-08-27 21:30:48 UTC  

The worrying part about Utah is the high level of immigration.

2018-08-27 21:32:55 UTC  

I don't doubt Utah's allegiance in the 2018 elections. However, 2020 might be a toss up given the number of Libertarians in the State.

2018-08-27 21:34:52 UTC  

I doubt that it will flip Left. However, it might flip third party.

2018-08-27 21:35:41 UTC  

Of course, that's almost as bad as it flipping blue.

2018-08-27 21:36:00 UTC  

ffs. electoral math is horrible