Message from @John O -

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2018-08-29 03:45:53 UTC  

I've found getting people to do the right thing doesn't work when you don't have leverage on them

2018-08-29 03:45:54 UTC  

Yes

2018-08-29 03:46:18 UTC  

*C'mon, don't do that, it's not right* is not a persuasive argument to those that simply don't care

2018-08-29 03:46:34 UTC  

thus the mobs and pitch forks

2018-08-29 03:46:42 UTC  

class division

2018-08-29 03:46:47 UTC  

Which ties it all back to the importance of class mobility

2018-08-29 03:47:14 UTC  

And passing some of those earnings down to the workers

2018-08-29 03:47:20 UTC  

I’d be on the short end of the stick without class mobility

2018-08-29 03:47:26 UTC  

Find balance between the old order and the new @John O -

2018-08-29 03:47:29 UTC  

So we don't end up right where we're currently at

2018-08-29 03:47:37 UTC  

Going back 3 or 4 gens anyhow

2018-08-29 03:47:38 UTC  

Literally everyone in IE would @William Russell

2018-08-29 03:47:59 UTC  

That’s no joke

2018-08-29 03:48:16 UTC  

Corporate earnings way up, stock market way up, wages... the same. Angry people, why's that?

2018-08-29 03:48:26 UTC  

People are making our salaries in a pay period.

2018-08-29 03:48:39 UTC  

@Deleted User fs my dude. I'm not an economist, I'm not smart enough to re-invent the wheel, all I know is that romanticizing miserable periods of human history is bad

2018-08-29 03:48:49 UTC  

and then going to book it when it all falls apart

2018-08-29 03:49:05 UTC  

only to come back to invest in the shattered and cheap market

2018-08-29 03:49:50 UTC  

My mom's mom was definitely aristocracy, but most of the rest of my family was lower class and rose up, or was already middle class for generations

2018-08-29 03:50:29 UTC  

My great grandfather and his family were driven from Missouri into Mexico. We were refugees.

2018-08-29 03:50:32 UTC  

There was a period of US history where land was owned by the greatest proportion of the population in the middle part of last century, but that proportion is rapidly shrinking, and will shrink even greater when the bubble pops and property values plummet

2018-08-29 03:51:00 UTC  

All I want in life is to be a land owner

2018-08-29 03:51:07 UTC  

Well not all but...

2018-08-29 03:51:19 UTC  

I’ve been saving for about 80 acres

2018-08-29 03:51:43 UTC  

Take it before they take it all for themselves

2018-08-29 03:52:06 UTC  

There’s liberation in owning land.

2018-08-29 03:52:26 UTC  

Kinda, lol

2018-08-29 03:52:31 UTC  

A privacy I’ve never had being a renter my whole life

2018-08-29 03:53:10 UTC  

I feel like land ownership especially in rural america is a sign of aristocracy.

2018-08-29 03:53:44 UTC  

Definitely.

2018-08-29 03:54:14 UTC  

I used to believe all the myths about the South being open and free and people hunting and the poor fishing

2018-08-29 03:54:28 UTC  

You're lucky you are not in the west. The western half of the US is mostly owned by the federal government. That's why we have so many wildfires. 90% of the California wildfires are started on federally managed land.

2018-08-29 03:54:34 UTC  

Turns out everywhere is owned and to hunt you have to pay a lease or find the owner of the land

2018-08-29 03:55:01 UTC  

I'm from out west originally, that's why I had a false impression of the South

2018-08-29 03:55:09 UTC  

California...

2018-08-29 03:55:16 UTC  

kek

2018-08-29 03:55:18 UTC  

*Southern* California...

2018-08-29 03:55:22 UTC  

Oooof

2018-08-29 03:55:28 UTC  

*Los Angeles*...

2018-08-29 03:55:33 UTC  

OOOOOOOOOF

2018-08-29 03:56:20 UTC  

@Flint yeah crazy it's almost like the top 2% of the earners in this country are trying to create a soft Serfdom