Message from Alex Kolchak - NY in Nice Respectable People Group #general


2018-08-29 16:32:33 UTC  

We can actually demonstrate it.

2018-08-29 16:32:52 UTC  

I’d be more concerned that homeless people often don’t have proper ID even if they’re good people and citizens

2018-08-29 16:33:07 UTC  

We can give them a citizenship test.

2018-08-29 16:33:09 UTC  

Lol

2018-08-29 16:33:58 UTC  

or a citizenship test with our preferred criteria lol

2018-08-29 16:34:12 UTC  

Here's my issues with this:
Churches already do this and the left hates them.
We'd get a propaganda boost until they point out we only did it for citizens and then we'd lose the soft hearts of the people who it would've worked on.
Basically, no gain but effort, time, energy, and dollars lost

2018-08-29 16:34:44 UTC  

is it the normal churches or the rainbow flag churches that do it more?

2018-08-29 16:34:48 UTC  

Trash pick ups, painting over grafitti--that's the stuff we win on in this department

2018-08-29 16:34:50 UTC  

I would guess the former

2018-08-29 16:35:17 UTC  

My church is hardcore Right wing and they feed the homeless

2018-08-29 16:35:24 UTC  

nice

2018-08-29 16:35:40 UTC  

Pozzed churches are actually hard to find in my experience, just not enough to call it only a meme

2018-08-29 16:36:14 UTC  

ehhh.. go to wealthy suburban areas and you’ll see a good number of them

2018-08-29 16:36:39 UTC  

Look how many churches there are, though.

2018-08-29 16:36:45 UTC  

that’s trhe

2018-08-29 16:36:50 UTC  

*true

2018-08-29 16:37:07 UTC  

400 in a small city, the 5 awful ones get the lefty press coverage

2018-08-29 16:37:19 UTC  

It's the same with college protests

2018-08-29 16:37:39 UTC  

good point. also if the intent is to help the homeless, handing stuff out could be good too

2018-08-29 16:37:43 UTC  

The left owns the media, they dictate the portrayal

2018-08-29 16:37:55 UTC  

blankets, water, survival essentials

2018-08-29 16:38:08 UTC  

with tasteful dragon eye logos of course

2018-08-29 16:38:36 UTC  

It's not so much that the left owns the media as it is that the people who own the left also own the media (as well as the kosher right).

2018-08-29 16:38:54 UTC  

Same difference, no?

2018-08-29 16:39:25 UTC  

a bit different. “the left owns the media” implies we can take it back from the left

2018-08-29 16:39:44 UTC  

when in fact you’d have to win it back from the *powers that be*

2018-08-29 16:39:56 UTC  

I'm kinda splitting hairs, yeah, but my point is that the media and the left actually have very little agency of their own. They're just instruments.

2018-08-29 16:41:06 UTC  

They're *all* the left. It's as much as I can put without always saying "Jews"

2018-08-29 16:41:12 UTC  

...and you can't *take* someone else's media. All you can do is displace them by undermining their narratives in order to better resonate with your target audience.

2018-08-29 16:41:52 UTC  

for the record, I never said anything about taking it back from the left..

2018-08-29 16:42:10 UTC  

We have to replace it all

2018-08-29 16:42:21 UTC  

somewhat related: we need an identitarian version of PragerU and all those conservative talking point generators

2018-08-29 16:42:40 UTC  

But, they literally *own* the media. Like, it's their company.

2018-08-29 16:42:46 UTC  

That's what I mean.

2018-08-29 16:42:54 UTC  

ah ok

2018-08-29 16:42:54 UTC  

It's their company and they direct the news

2018-08-29 16:43:00 UTC  

@Flint Agreed.

2018-08-29 16:43:13 UTC  

Btw, I'm not going after you or anything, lol. Just being a semantics sperg...

2018-08-29 16:43:18 UTC  

They manufacture consent and dissent with their institution they legally own.

2018-08-29 16:44:18 UTC  

So if one lesbian bishop becomes the head of a church, they have the power to multiply the news to the whole nation. We don't get to do that with those who stand fast.

2018-08-29 16:44:58 UTC  

That's the raison d'etre of any media organization. They don't exist to inform, but to mold opinion. There's no such thing as an objective media organization. They're inherently as biased and agenda-driven as the people who comprise them inevitably are. It's much more useful to look at every single media outfit as a PR operation for the people who own them.