Message from TMatthews in Nice Respectable People Group #general


2018-08-29 22:41:43 UTC  

Its bad content he should feel ashamed for furposting

2018-08-29 22:41:49 UTC  

oh okay, joking

2018-08-29 22:42:23 UTC  

Don't scare me like that, I'm trying to relax with a nice gin and tonic...ya'll giving me ulcers over here ๐Ÿ˜†

2018-08-29 22:42:34 UTC  

Furrys are b!g gh3y

2018-08-29 22:42:46 UTC  

@MrDefault No shame in my fur game, my friend

2018-08-29 22:43:33 UTC  

The avtists are out in force in general chat again.

2018-08-29 22:43:57 UTC  

Seriously tho...mod team jokes about going to sleep at night and having nightmares of absolute disasters happening in <#481597551272001546>

2018-08-29 22:44:22 UTC  

For real, I've had those nightmares before.

2018-08-29 22:47:25 UTC  

Mrs Logan must be writing a book...

2018-08-29 22:48:09 UTC  

Or hen pecking her keyboard one letter at a time. ๐Ÿค”

2018-08-29 22:50:21 UTC  

A thought I had continued from a conversation in <#359019439116648458> ...

The favorite slurs of the media for us are "neo-nazi" and "white supremacist." These evoke all that 1.0 baggage we want to shed-- which is why they roll off our backs like water off a duck since we look/sound/feel nothing like 1.0. Contrast this with the term "white nationalist." To some people *in* the movement this term evokes that 1.0 image, but I suspect to most people *outside* the movement it does not necessarily evoke this image, in large part because it is being juxtaposed with the aforementioned extreme terms, and because guys like Steve King are getting labeled "white nationalist" by the media. For this reason I think we are seeing a normalization of the term, as was pointed out recently on FTN. Not saying we should ditch "identitarian" right now, but it will be interesting to see how public opinion of these terms evolves in the coming years.

2018-08-29 22:51:37 UTC  

@Asatru Artist - MD Swiping on a tablet takes forever lol

2018-08-29 22:53:46 UTC  

Anyone have opinions on Balkanization? Maps?

2018-08-29 22:54:03 UTC  

Won't happen in our lifetime

2018-08-29 22:54:54 UTC  

As much as I want the Imperium of Greater Ohio, it's not going to happen

2018-08-29 22:57:43 UTC  

@Ben Rainsford - OH donโ€™t let your memes be dreams brother

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/481597551272001546/484496901723521024/image0.jpg

2018-08-29 22:58:51 UTC  

Itโ€™s also one of the only real options I see left.

2018-08-29 23:00:02 UTC  

No Mercy North of Toledo!

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/481597551272001546/484497489203036160/empireofohio.jpg

2018-08-29 23:00:06 UTC  

@missliterallywho I identified as a White nationalist for years, but the problem with the term goes beyond the antics of 1.0. The problem is with the term white, our enemies can easily misuse that term and apply towards everyone with light skin, non-Europeans included.
Furthermore the term allows them to break race down and claim that it is just a difference in melanin.
That's why I like the term Identitarian, because it is something new and it can't be defined by our enemies in the same old fashioned, stereotypical ways that White Nationalism can be.

2018-08-29 23:04:49 UTC  

@Virgil I disagree. They may play at tactical nihilism but no one will buy it. Everyone knows who's white when we're the enemy, proving they know, period. Did you see the debate between Enoch and Sargin where the latter claimed not to know who's white? Same thing.

2018-08-29 23:09:44 UTC  

To Virgil's point, Identity Evropa is a good name because Identity encompasses more than just biology. Obviously there is a biological component to race, but this wording lets us use normie friendly culture talking points too. Evropa also avoids the "what about dark skinned Italians?" nonsense

2018-08-29 23:10:39 UTC  

@missliterallywho It doesn't really matter whether people buy it or not. In an argument or on the political stage, White can be obfuscated into oblivion. Furthermore the term itself, disconnects us from our pre-American, European hetitage.
I think Indigenous European or European for short is a better term to use. Because it can restore our connection to our ancestral homelands and it is much more difficult to obfuscate.

2018-08-29 23:14:11 UTC  

Another point. The single biggest reason for using identitarian is that most people don't know what it is. Say you're white nat and they'll call you racist without considering anything else you say. Say you're identitarian and they'll ask "what's that?" This gives you the ability to define what you stand for on your own terms.

2018-08-29 23:15:33 UTC  

That's why the term alt-right was so useful before it went mainstream and the media branded it as neo-nazism

2018-08-29 23:16:24 UTC  

@Virgil "European" basically means anyone from anywhere to a lot of leftists. Look at the "French" World Cup team as an example. Those are all "French" to many now. <:sad:366743316475281408> ๐Ÿ˜ก

2018-08-29 23:19:05 UTC  

Y'all aren't thinking like normies

2018-08-29 23:19:09 UTC  

@Asatru Artist - MD If they try to use that argument, just ask if Elon Musk is African American. The double standard is obvious and white people like fairness

2018-08-29 23:19:13 UTC  

@Asatru Artist - MD Indigenous European, off the boat Africans cannot reasonably be defined that way, regardless of what leftists say.

2018-08-29 23:21:42 UTC  

There is nothing "reasonable" about leftists though.

2018-08-29 23:35:54 UTC  

We're not trying to reason with leftists. We're trying to juxtaposition our ideas with theirs so that the average MAGA type sides with us

2018-08-30 00:23:42 UTC  

Is there a fireside chat soon?

2018-08-30 00:25:24 UTC  

Yes, I believe Wayne will be hosting tonight. Feel free to jump into the voice chat now. @Smitty83

2018-08-30 00:25:38 UTC  

Yeah that what I yhought. Only 6 people are in voice.

2018-08-30 00:28:46 UTC  

Great thanks will do!

2018-08-30 00:29:36 UTC  

Gonna miss this one lads. Having dinner with Scandinavian family. This is when pathological altruism actually works.

2018-08-30 00:29:51 UTC  

People are fighting over how to help and pay for things.

2018-08-30 00:30:07 UTC  

Thanks for the reminder on the mics.

2018-08-30 00:30:40 UTC  

Coming in clean.

2018-08-30 00:31:09 UTC  

Hot Mic Nationalism incoming.

2018-08-30 00:31:10 UTC  

Great to have you host, Wayne!

2018-08-30 00:31:26 UTC  

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