Now this reminds me of something I heard of a couple days ago. A 9 year old boy killed himself after being bullied for coming out. Now, this is sad of course ... but what I’m wondering is.. how did he know he was gay? Gayness is entirely sexual, there is no biological motive to being a homosexual, so how did this little boy know he liked gay sex, penis, etc? Even when I was a 9 year old girl that was never a thought that crossed my mind. Who was introducing sexuality to this child?

It just seems to be a perennial thing, so the question is how to remove it from the everyday conscuousness of normal people without being unsustainably draconian about it...

And of course, he was the son of two adoptive lesbian mothers. When we will learn that children will never prosper underneath gay families?

@NITRODUBS "To me, homosexuality is like a fetish, if you want to practice it, do it entirely behind closed doors." This, declaring your homosexuality is literally declaring your fetish, it's really not appropriate for public. (Of course, fetishes are degenerate to begin with.)

I know it’s degenerate, but as long as humans exist there will be some sort of degeneracy.

@NITRODUBS I'm not scientifically literate enough to know for sure, but there does seem to be a lot of anecdotal evidence for a biological component, and rarely, a predisposition, but in most cases, it does seem to be something into which people are socialized, often by abuse.

I studied this quite a bit, and this is the best way I can simplify it. There is no gayness without illness. Gayness is almost always paired with schizophrenia, depression, or some severe anxiety. Humans main purpose is to reproduce, and not wanting that is on par with not wanting to eat, sleep, or simply wanting to die in general. And it’s shown that there is very small biological correlations with genetics and gayness, but the only evidence that proves this is the same evidence that shows mental illness also has a connections with genetics. You are not BORN gay, gayness is triggered. Just like depression or anxiety is triggered, maybe by trauma, bad exercise or diet, gayness a lot of the time is triggered by child sexual stimulation.

@ThisIsChris Agreed. People feel entirely too free too speak explicitly about sex in public. We need to expand the scope of public decency laws, so that people reembrace the art of the euphemism.

Well that's gonna kill a lot of my insults

@NITRODUBS Pretty much my feeling as well. That's what I meant when I talked about a biological component or predisposition, a heightened susceptibility to bring "triggered."

I hate to sound like a boomer here, but homosexuality has become a social scene for people who can't find their place. The 12-22 demographic has it pushed on to them through the media (snapchat being a good example) to the point that it's the trendy thing to do. Gets you lots of social media upvotes, gives you a cause to stand for, let's you be the brave victim etc

I think there should be public open spaces for people with sexual disorders, I think people with gay thoughts who want to rid themselves of them should be able to reach out for help, and have a support system. Same with victims of sexual assault and the such. But any sexual “pride”... uh no. Your sexual “pride” should only be your ability to reproduce. And your way of showing off that pride should be having children and raising them with dignity.

@Salo Saloson This is an explicitly adult forum, lol. I'm mostly talking about public spaces where there are children present.

Most of these kids, luckily, will out grow it before spiraling off the deep end but that's what happens in a feminized culture

Homosexuality is REALLY pushed on younger kids. I remember, I was friends with so many bi sexuals, I started to question my own sexuality, and I thought maybe something was wrong with the fact I only liked men. Because of that, I tried talking to women in sexual ways when I was 16, realized how uncomfortable it made me, and started to question how anyone could actually do that. Since then I’ve been studying it pretty deeply.

Sorry man I am out here typing entire books right now lmao. Sorry for the lengthy stuff.

Lol

Nah, no sweat.

I'm a big fan of the Russian "Prohibition of Propaganda of Homosexuality and Pedophilia."

College is even worse

I think Russia is definitely taking good steps with pushing back on the LGBT movement

If you deny them access to kids (other than their own), then natural demographic change will keep the problem sandboxed .

I don't know how so many parents are OK with exposing their kids to that stuff. Maybe they just don't know

I really view gays in the same light as pedophiles, especially because a lot of gays are pedophiles also.

I think A LOT of them don't realize how bad things have become.

But I'm sure you've seen some of those creepy YouTube clickbate videos aimed at children that get millions of views

But my difference between them, is I believe gays can be cured, pedophilia cannot

It's been accelerating more and more...

I’m so glad my mom kept all her old VHS tapes of nice wholesome kids content. I’m not letting my future kids use YouTube until they’re like 13 at least...

How exactly is it ‘cured?’ I haven’t seen anything to suggest it works like that.

@NITRODUBS Maybe gays can be cured, maybe they can't, but either way, they can be triaged into making a positive contribution to society. The only cure for pedophilia, though, is the rope.

I’ve seen cases of gays being cured, or at least subdued. The way to curing it is curing what ever triggered those thoughts and behaviors. Usually counseling for sexual trauma, parent abandonment, and therapy in general.

Well repression doesn’t sound like a cure. It just sounds like a form of ‘treatment’ if we’re framing it as a disease.

Repression isn’t always the outcome, but it’s definitely better than outwardly expressing that

The LGBT is constantly trying to ban conversion therapy camps and counselors, which is so odd for me because the majority of people who use these services are consenting adults.

If we’re being honest, that stuff is basically torture.

And it doesn’t work.

It really isn’t lol. If you really believe the “shock therapy” myth, I’m going to tell you now that there has only been one “therapist” that has used that and he has been shamed since. Gay therapy practices are very similar to AA meetings and other illness counseling

And if you’re against that, what do you suggest we do? Just allow them to continue life practicing gay behavior?

It’s unfair to not offer these people help when a lot of them want help. Taking away therapy because you deem it “torture”, when in reality, it’s similar to any other therapists practices, it unfair. We need to get rid of this boogey-man thought process that gay therapy is electro shock, abusive torture. That is liberal propaganda, and I suggest you look further into this.

So which is it? A fetish, a disease, or an addiction?