Message from @GeorgyBoyo

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2019-11-11 23:55:10 UTC  

all the ones which could treat their workers poorly went broke <:makes_you_think:382980749780844554>

2019-11-11 23:55:36 UTC  
2019-11-11 23:56:03 UTC  

Because they had the influx of mass immigration or the possibility to move abroad and do shady business there

2019-11-11 23:56:32 UTC  

wow it's almost like paying your workers less and not following regulations which would protect and benefit the worker is more profitable

2019-11-11 23:56:41 UTC  

who would have thunk

2019-11-11 23:56:41 UTC  

And more importantly the consumers clearly don't give a shit so

2019-11-11 23:57:12 UTC  

If it's not financially justified then you can't give your workers everything they want yeah

2019-11-11 23:57:22 UTC  

@MountainMan can you believe that a chinese sweatshop worker is more profitable to hire than some unionised nord?

2019-11-11 23:57:31 UTC  

i for one am shocked

2019-11-11 23:58:07 UTC  

Again I think the most important thing is changing the attitude that the consumers have

2019-11-11 23:58:23 UTC  

As long as they're still supporting inferior products then nothing is going to stop

2019-11-11 23:58:47 UTC  

ok so if it depends on the customers holding the employer over a barrel, why even entertain the notion that "hurr the factory will bleed workers"

2019-11-11 23:58:49 UTC  

Convince people to stop supporting shady business practices

2019-11-11 23:59:33 UTC  

also the customer and the employees interests are opposed inherently

2019-11-11 23:59:39 UTC  

because the customer wants cheaper product

2019-11-12 00:00:31 UTC  

anyway g2g

2019-11-12 00:00:45 UTC  

Because if the consumer base weren't inmoral and the factory owner couldn't just replace his talented workers with wage slaves. As long as there is demand for inferior products the company will try to cut corners and It'll be sustainable.

2019-11-12 00:01:20 UTC  

The end product still suffers

2019-11-12 00:01:55 UTC  

If they replace their work force with low wage mass immigrants or do it abroad.

2019-11-12 00:02:32 UTC  

They won't be making decent products because they are bleeding talented workers.

2019-11-12 00:04:57 UTC  

My intention is to take care of the locals as much as possible, in a good society the small government and the service providers (The corporations) would reflect that. The globalists of our time which are content to bring in mass immigrants are the enemy of the locals.

2019-11-12 00:06:22 UTC  

They destroy the local economy, bring down wages and shit out inferior products.

2019-11-12 00:06:53 UTC  

The idiots that keep buying these are supporting this destructive process.

2019-11-12 00:18:44 UTC  

@GeorgyBoyo problem is you can't buy alternatives here because anything is either from china or costs 100 times as much because it's not produced in a country that allows for the poisoning of the environment and the people like chin does

2019-11-12 00:19:51 UTC  

Then you use tariffs

2019-11-12 00:21:37 UTC  

Yes

2019-11-12 00:33:24 UTC  

^

2019-11-12 00:43:23 UTC  

Tariffs are anti business and anti consumer though <:pepe_smile:378719407977005068>

2019-11-12 00:43:34 UTC  

Would Mises approve?

2019-11-12 00:45:50 UTC  

<:pepe_eyes:378719408362881024>

2019-11-12 00:46:03 UTC  

It do be coersion

2019-11-12 00:46:34 UTC  

No tariffs then. Convince the people to stop supporting shitty practices or get fucked?

2019-11-12 00:47:55 UTC  

But at the same time they're foreigners and they don't have the same privileges as the citizens 🤔

2019-11-12 01:12:30 UTC  

They're not really tariffs they're a counter to a Chinese chess move that was thought to be completely theoretical back in the
1940s

2019-11-12 01:17:32 UTC  

Classically, tariffs are a tax used by the country in order to bring in income, or to create a protectionist policy.

Under free trade theory, it's assumed that no country would WANT to put tariffs of things, but there's a slight chance that a country could take advantage of this by dumping goods and undercutting the local prices of other nations

2019-11-12 01:18:14 UTC  

China made a move, and for a while no one called their bluff

2019-11-12 01:19:10 UTC  

US tariffs on China are not protectionist, because it's not protecting US businesses per se.

It's actually encouraging businesses to move to other SE Asian countries like Taiwan or Malaysia

2019-11-12 01:26:17 UTC  

`there's a slight chance that a country could take advantage of this by dumping goods and undercutting the local prices of other nations`
like, what motivated the US to originally tariff european manufactured goods, steel, etc.

2019-11-12 01:27:39 UTC  

Tactical negotiations

2019-11-12 01:28:37 UTC  

```In the aftermath of the American Revolution, the weak Congress of the Confederation had been unable to impose a tariff or reach reciprocal trade agreements with most European powers, creating a situation in which the country was unable to prevent a flood of European goods which were damaging domestic manufacturers even while Britain and other countries placed high duties on U.S. goods```
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