Message from @Alex Kolchak - NY

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2018-09-18 00:08:45 UTC  

In the early 1900s the Russian economy was among the fastest growing in the world. There was emerging a robust middle class. They had a Duma after 1905 which would have grown in influence. Except for the war, Russian would have been just fine except for their huge non-Russian empire. That would have melted away at some point regardless. But the Left was growing in power all over Europe. If WWI could have been avoided, it would be interesting to know if the Leftist pathology would have been stamped out. I'm inclined to agree with William S. Lind that It would have been preferable if Germany had actually won a clear victory in WWI. Not perfect, but preferable.

2018-09-18 00:09:44 UTC  

I obviously don't support communism, but monarchy honestly seems pretty bad to me

2018-09-18 00:09:45 UTC  

But whatever, Communists have NO redeeming qualities at all.

2018-09-18 00:10:50 UTC  

@Jacob as a orthodox person I have to disagree

2018-09-18 00:10:51 UTC  

@Jacob without getting into a debate over which political system is best, Russia isn’t very culturally suited for non-authoritarian government

2018-09-18 00:11:02 UTC  

Monarchy supported by Christian population is at worst benign. With the fall of Christianity, monarchy isn't possible. But there's been nothing to take its place.

2018-09-18 00:11:23 UTC  

one counterexample: Lichtenstein

2018-09-18 00:11:29 UTC  

has a monarchy with real powers

2018-09-18 00:11:49 UTC  

is also the closest thing to a true libertarian state out there

2018-09-18 00:12:35 UTC  

@Alex Kolchak - NY Yeah but Lichtenstein is not much more than a large landed estate. The bigger the state, the more unwieldy.

2018-09-18 00:12:43 UTC  

that’s absolutely true

2018-09-18 00:12:54 UTC  

The problem with monarchy, is that you have to bet on the monarch's son turning out well. Smart, successful people will occasionally have dumb kids. Maybe more than occasionally. That's a huge gamble to take with your country's future.

2018-09-18 00:13:05 UTC  

And God save us from Libertarianism. Another utopian fever dream.

2018-09-18 00:13:21 UTC  

I don’t mean dudeweed libertarianism

2018-09-18 00:13:36 UTC  

more like "so to speak" libertarianism? @Alex Kolchak - NY

2018-09-18 00:13:43 UTC  

there ya go

2018-09-18 00:13:59 UTC  

eh I see where you are coming from

2018-09-18 00:14:11 UTC  

but it's funny how a national syndicalist and a libertarian can agree on monarchy :/

2018-09-18 00:14:58 UTC  

basically the bottom line for both libertarianism and socialism, and a lot of other relatively radical systems, is that you need a high-trust society

2018-09-18 00:15:02 UTC  

Ha ha. Dudeweed. Perfect. But really a patriotic, nationalist, racialist oligarchy is not a bad way to go. They problem is when the nonWhite parasites take over. Like now.

2018-09-18 00:15:36 UTC  

I think we can all agree on the high-trust society aspect. Bringing that back is enough of a struggle

2018-09-18 00:15:57 UTC  

yep

2018-09-18 00:16:37 UTC  

btw Myth20c had another good episode on Lithuania, guest starring a Lithuanian nationalist

2018-09-18 00:16:43 UTC  

very cool little country

2018-09-18 00:17:11 UTC  

heh I've heard some bad stuff about Lithuania

2018-09-18 00:17:19 UTC  

and how they are butthurt a la Ukraine about russia

2018-09-18 00:17:25 UTC  

but idk maybe they have reasons

2018-09-18 00:17:30 UTC  

that’s understandable, though

2018-09-18 00:17:44 UTC  

the Russian Empire wasn’t kind to Poland and the Baltics

2018-09-18 00:18:03 UTC  

njet molotoff! njet molotoff!

2018-09-18 00:18:28 UTC  

I saw anime girls

2018-09-18 00:18:37 UTC  

you saw nothing

2018-09-18 00:18:41 UTC  

nothing to see here

2018-09-18 00:18:46 UTC  

it's just a coincidence

2018-09-18 00:18:56 UTC  

and historically, that region is its own thing. The P-L Commonwealth went from the Baltics to the Balkans at one point

2018-09-18 00:19:21 UTC  

ya sure there Jose? you better not be fooly coolying around or anything

2018-09-18 00:19:40 UTC  

the term is “intermarium” - “between the seas.” It wasn’t meant to be a Russian territory

2018-09-18 00:19:41 UTC  

is this an episode of democracy ruins a country? this is an episode of how the sjem ruined Poland

2018-09-18 00:20:50 UTC  

@Salo Saloson i'm pretty sure no anime girls were posted in this channel *instinctive friction between insides of upper appendages intensifies*

2018-09-18 00:21:06 UTC  

democracy, when not restrained by voter qualifications, can absolutely ruin a country

2018-09-18 00:22:27 UTC  

@Alex Kolchak - NY ok tbqh Ukraine is historically Russian clay, and there are many reasons for this