Message from @Alex Kolchak - NY
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or the menshiviks for that matter
true. but even they were subverted or forced out of power
there were anti-Red social democrats and constitutional democrats
disclaimer: the revolution was still a bad thing
the revolution imo was the worst single even in the history of russia
*event
if you account for other events that happened as a result, absolutely yes
In the early 1900s the Russian economy was among the fastest growing in the world. There was emerging a robust middle class. They had a Duma after 1905 which would have grown in influence. Except for the war, Russian would have been just fine except for their huge non-Russian empire. That would have melted away at some point regardless. But the Left was growing in power all over Europe. If WWI could have been avoided, it would be interesting to know if the Leftist pathology would have been stamped out. I'm inclined to agree with William S. Lind that It would have been preferable if Germany had actually won a clear victory in WWI. Not perfect, but preferable.
I obviously don't support communism, but monarchy honestly seems pretty bad to me
But whatever, Communists have NO redeeming qualities at all.
@Jacob as a orthodox person I have to disagree
@Jacob without getting into a debate over which political system is best, Russia isn’t very culturally suited for non-authoritarian government
Monarchy supported by Christian population is at worst benign. With the fall of Christianity, monarchy isn't possible. But there's been nothing to take its place.
one counterexample: Lichtenstein
has a monarchy with real powers
is also the closest thing to a true libertarian state out there
@Alex Kolchak - NY Yeah but Lichtenstein is not much more than a large landed estate. The bigger the state, the more unwieldy.
that’s absolutely true
The problem with monarchy, is that you have to bet on the monarch's son turning out well. Smart, successful people will occasionally have dumb kids. Maybe more than occasionally. That's a huge gamble to take with your country's future.
And God save us from Libertarianism. Another utopian fever dream.
more like "so to speak" libertarianism? @Alex Kolchak - NY
there ya go
eh I see where you are coming from
but it's funny how a national syndicalist and a libertarian can agree on monarchy :/
basically the bottom line for both libertarianism and socialism, and a lot of other relatively radical systems, is that you need a high-trust society
Ha ha. Dudeweed. Perfect. But really a patriotic, nationalist, racialist oligarchy is not a bad way to go. They problem is when the nonWhite parasites take over. Like now.
I think we can all agree on the high-trust society aspect. Bringing that back is enough of a struggle
yep
btw Myth20c had another good episode on Lithuania, guest starring a Lithuanian nationalist
very cool little country
heh I've heard some bad stuff about Lithuania
and how they are butthurt a la Ukraine about russia
but idk maybe they have reasons
that’s understandable, though
the Russian Empire wasn’t kind to Poland and the Baltics
njet molotoff! njet molotoff!
I saw anime girls
you saw nothing
nothing to see here
it's just a coincidence