it wasn't a utopia: it was targetted extermination

that's how I see it

check out the Myth of the 20th Century episode on the Holodomor

and you see that it (and other policies) were deliberate

even Ta-Nehisi Coates (!) in the Atlantic (!) wrote about how about a third of the NKVD was of a *certain background*

you don't even have to dive into 8chan archives to this info

a nobel prize winner was *explicit* about this

Solzhenitsyn has many quotes about who and how did this

Alexander solzensomfun

Given up trying to spell that name

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@YourFundamentalTheorum Nice name bro! Welcome to IE.

yeah thanks bruh

oh, you’re new? welcome!

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thanks

is this allowed?

i hope this is allowed

I think it's mandatory tbh

@YourFundamentalTheorum All utopian fever dreams lead to murderous tyranny. And I agree that the Communist Revolution was a pathogen infected while the Russians were at their weakest. But that is the danger with (((parasites))). They treat their hosts as contemptible and disposable husks. Our own elites are busting out the U.S. as if we are a New York restaurant being busted out by the Mafia.

inb4 fun patrol shows up and shuts down the anime girls

who can relate

Summoning @Attrition in the desert

quick everyone, act normal

but back to the topic: while you can’t deny that there were issues with the Russian regime by the early 1900s, the Bolsheviks were the worst possible outcome of the revolution

there were good reformers and bad reformers, but they were generally still pro-Russian people

not so with the Bolsheviks

or the menshiviks for that matter

true. but even they were subverted or forced out of power

there were anti-Red social democrats and constitutional democrats

disclaimer: the revolution was still a bad thing

the revolution imo was the worst single even in the history of russia

*event

if you account for other events that happened as a result, absolutely yes

In the early 1900s the Russian economy was among the fastest growing in the world. There was emerging a robust middle class. They had a Duma after 1905 which would have grown in influence. Except for the war, Russian would have been just fine except for their huge non-Russian empire. That would have melted away at some point regardless. But the Left was growing in power all over Europe. If WWI could have been avoided, it would be interesting to know if the Leftist pathology would have been stamped out. I'm inclined to agree with William S. Lind that It would have been preferable if Germany had actually won a clear victory in WWI. Not perfect, but preferable.

I obviously don't support communism, but monarchy honestly seems pretty bad to me

But whatever, Communists have NO redeeming qualities at all.

@Jacob as a orthodox person I have to disagree

@Jacob without getting into a debate over which political system is best, Russia isn’t very culturally suited for non-authoritarian government