It takes unity if we’re going to survive this siege

We don't have to "ostracize" them, but we also don't need to directly associate with them.

See, that’s where your wrong. Even if it’s behind closed doors, we should all be working together

Actively talking to one another, educating one another

If we want to take on the intellectual role, that mean we have to take on the role of teacher too.

Patrick is right when he says we must become a new thing that future kids will LARP as. Let us not LARP ourselves.

And Mr. Wang Lin is also right when he says if one wants to be as or more effective than early 20th century movements, we must make a movement suited to *our* time, place, people, needs and opportunities. It is what they did. We can't cargo cult as them without understanding underlying social technology. Succesful movements were not repellent to their main target demographics. So we must be admirable to our people.

Well, there was a book written as a guideline for new movements, I’m sure some here have read it even

Rules for Radicals (our enemies playbook)

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I agree, but the 1.0 types should come up to our level, not us come down to their level. With great success, people *WILL* imitate us, either by our methods, or by our optics. It only takes one bad person to ruin the face of an entire movement.

Right now, it's more important than ever to be cautious.

Yea, even with a right leaning govt, society is yet to catch up to us yet, so they would pressure govt to act against us.

I disagree. We have a president and almost now a Supreme Court that’s on our side

It might be time to make a stand

They are neocons mostly, they aren't /ourguys/

@DickHead We don't have the people yet.

We’ve got white america

@DickHead Do we?

Openly collaborating with people who espouse values/behaviors which are detrimental to our movement is a good way to have ourselves lumped together with those types of people in the eyes of conservatives. We work very hard to maintain a certain image of well-adjusted people and it can easily be ruined if we let those with questionable optics affiliate with us.

Conservative =/= Identitarian

we don't

Sorry, Midwest.

need more nonsense from the left, like drag queens reading to kids, to get more normies on our side

most people just don't get it still

As someone that sees everything as propaganda, we have the ammunition

Stockpiles of it even

Just need to weaponize it

remember, never make the mistake of assuming the public is as cognitive as yourself

Normies don't see it as "propaganda" though, they see it as what they are supposed to do or think or feel.

*Weaponize it* <:varg:359010745192808449>

But WE should be making propaganda

WE are...

@DickHead what do you think activism is?

Our un-counterable rallies and connections are our propaganda, and it's very, very effective

Why isn’t it everywhere? Why aren’t we taking out radio time in small towns across the country?

Capital...

We're a young movement with limited resources.

Then pool them

We post our content on twitter and youtube. That has much more reach and impact than a small-town radio station

What do you think dues are for? Ians tanning sessions? <:teehee:381917632359563264>

What are you honestly talking about? That is the purpose of membership dues - to gather resources for the purpose of growing our org