Message from @TV

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2018-09-25 16:11:01 UTC  

Most educated doesn’t mean smartest

2018-09-25 16:11:13 UTC  

Colleges love to give them free rides

2018-09-25 16:11:26 UTC  

Because they’re black and a woman

2018-09-25 16:11:40 UTC  

And typically more motivated than their male counterparts

2018-09-25 16:12:26 UTC  

Black people are like lions. Male lion lays around all day and female lions go on the hunt

2018-09-25 16:15:21 UTC  

@Bjorn - MD sometimes you just have to let people come to the conclusion themselves. Someone I know wasn’t even very politically involved - until they went to Toronto and were shocked, because they expected to see a European city. Now they’re strongly considering joining IE

2018-09-25 16:15:43 UTC  

(there are other reasons, but that was the “oh s**t” moment)

2018-09-25 16:17:43 UTC  

Similar story with my dad. He’s actually been very receptive to our debates, but all it’s really done is made him disillusioned with politics (he used to be an old-school, JFK-type Democrat.) The biggest breakthroughs are when he sends me something with a comment like “this is really concerning”

yes, yes it is concerning.

2018-09-25 16:19:59 UTC  

@Asatru Artist - MD @Procella Eques No need to explain it away, but that statistic is outright bullshit

2018-09-25 16:20:09 UTC  

Like, they just made it up

2018-09-25 16:20:35 UTC  

It's based on a real statistic, but they took it to a totally different conclusion

2018-09-25 16:21:18 UTC  

I don't remember what the original statistic was, but it was something irrelevant

2018-09-25 16:21:31 UTC  

Not surprising, I'm a little skeptical of black women surpassing Jews and Asians in education

2018-09-25 16:22:33 UTC  

black women are enrolled the most (by percentage)

2018-09-25 16:22:39 UTC  

but they're definitely not the most educated

2018-09-25 16:22:49 UTC  

and they don't finish _close_ to the same rate as others

2018-09-25 16:23:13 UTC  

@The Eternal Anglo is she otherwise conservative? What doesn't she agree on exactly?

2018-09-25 16:23:44 UTC  

Show her a world iq map

2018-09-25 16:24:48 UTC  

@Salo Saloson Ya, that's what it was

2018-09-25 16:25:28 UTC  

@TV She's based on a lot of the good areas, like LGBT, marriage, values, against mindless dating, clubs, etc. It's the race, culture, and future of America I'm having problems with still. Like pitbulls are dangerous because of bad owners, people are dumber because of their upbringing and blacks are jailed more because Whites and asians have all the money and Blacks don't, so they can't bribe themselves out of jail

2018-09-25 16:25:55 UTC  

It doesn't matter if she says she agrees or not. She may never admit it, but the more red pills you drop over time, the more she'll come to see that you're right. One day, out of nowhere, she'll start talking like she's Jared Taylor and she'll think she came to those conclusions on her own

2018-09-25 16:26:40 UTC  

@TV Oh I've been laying the groundwork for over a year, it's all coming down to this up-coming Paris vacation. fingers crossed!

2018-09-25 16:26:52 UTC  

Interestingly, the percentage enrolled in college increases if a group of people stays in college longer. So, someone who graduated in 1 year is "less educated" than someone who graduated in 6 years.

2018-09-25 16:29:20 UTC  

Also you should sneak some podcasts and youtube videos in when she's around you. Sometimes hearing other people say the same things helps. Red Ice is good because there's other women on the show.

2018-09-25 16:30:12 UTC  

@TV So I should probably have Lana playing while she's around yeah? Sounds good man

2018-09-25 16:31:17 UTC  

@Virgil Agreed (facts supplement, or rather, justify and reinforce feelings).

2018-09-25 16:33:42 UTC  

@Alex Kolchak - NY Very true. Ultimately, even if you are actively attempting to influence someone's views, you're ultimately only going to be successful if they at least *feel* that they've independently arrived at whichever conclusion they end up drawing.

2018-09-25 16:35:31 UTC  

@TV @Bjorn - MD @Alex Kolchak - NY Thank you for all your advice, by the way

2018-09-25 16:36:02 UTC  

@The Eternal Anglo No schweat, brudda!

2018-09-25 16:36:08 UTC  
2018-09-25 16:36:12 UTC  

no problem, glad to help. Maybe we could have a “rhetorical tactics” guide?

2018-09-25 16:36:43 UTC  

Glad to help.

2018-09-25 16:37:24 UTC  

I think Frog Juice on Twitter has some good threads about how to explain this stuff to people

2018-09-25 16:38:52 UTC  

*had. he got purged, not sure if he’s back

2018-09-25 16:40:36 UTC  

I had a couple of friends who worked for various progressive orgs. Those groups have their sales pitch and talking points basically worked out into a science

2018-09-25 16:45:25 UTC  

we need to be twice as sharp as them

2018-09-25 16:53:05 UTC  

you can always refer back to Jared Taylor videos

2018-09-25 16:53:31 UTC  

He always has sane, simple, and agreeable explanations

2018-09-25 16:54:29 UTC  

And his appearance is also something to note, he's viewed as a harmless nice old man, which is hard to demonize or not to like.

2018-09-25 16:54:41 UTC  

Appearance is important

2018-09-25 16:56:06 UTC  

I don’t know if it’s really possible to straight up rhetorical convince someone in an argument. No one likes to be told their world view is wrong, it’s better to do it in a questioning way. Like, “How come Sarah Jeong can say these things about white people but Candace Owens got banned for saying the same thing about x people?”