Message from Jacob in Nice Respectable People Group #general


2018-09-25 16:36:08 UTC  
2018-09-25 16:36:12 UTC  

no problem, glad to help. Maybe we could have a “rhetorical tactics” guide?

2018-09-25 16:36:43 UTC  

Glad to help.

2018-09-25 16:37:24 UTC  

I think Frog Juice on Twitter has some good threads about how to explain this stuff to people

2018-09-25 16:38:52 UTC  

*had. he got purged, not sure if he’s back

2018-09-25 16:40:36 UTC  

I had a couple of friends who worked for various progressive orgs. Those groups have their sales pitch and talking points basically worked out into a science

2018-09-25 16:45:25 UTC  

we need to be twice as sharp as them

2018-09-25 16:53:05 UTC  

you can always refer back to Jared Taylor videos

2018-09-25 16:53:31 UTC  

He always has sane, simple, and agreeable explanations

2018-09-25 16:54:29 UTC  

And his appearance is also something to note, he's viewed as a harmless nice old man, which is hard to demonize or not to like.

2018-09-25 16:54:41 UTC  

Appearance is important

2018-09-25 16:56:06 UTC  

I don’t know if it’s really possible to straight up rhetorical convince someone in an argument. No one likes to be told their world view is wrong, it’s better to do it in a questioning way. Like, “How come Sarah Jeong can say these things about white people but Candace Owens got banned for saying the same thing about x people?”

2018-09-25 16:56:28 UTC  

(I forget who she replaced the people with but you get the idea. )

2018-09-25 16:57:15 UTC  

@Deleted User Jared Taylor talks too much about race and IQ and race and crime to be palatable to a lot of people

2018-09-25 16:57:36 UTC  

He's largely for people who are already on their way here

2018-09-25 16:57:42 UTC  

And I think women usually conform to the world view of the most dominant male in their life IRC

2018-09-25 16:57:48 UTC  

@Jacob I agree

2018-09-25 16:58:23 UTC  

We need to have sources that talk about identity without bringing up stuff that makes specific races sound bad

2018-09-25 16:58:38 UTC  

right

2018-09-25 16:58:45 UTC  

I know that's not good intention, but that's what it will come off as

2018-09-25 16:59:39 UTC  

Don't get me wrong, he is useful. I'm here largely because of Jared Taylor. The thing is, I was ready for it by the time I found AmRen.

2018-09-25 17:02:05 UTC  

If you can’t start out w Jared Taylor, you can start out w Jordan Peterson, if you can’t start w him, you can use Ben Shapiro 😵

2018-09-25 17:03:00 UTC  

@Trashboat i agree. Asking questions is a good way to help people arrive to these conclusions. Engaging in conversation instead of just stating facts.

2018-09-25 17:03:10 UTC  
2018-09-25 17:03:32 UTC  

Haha ok maybe Sargon of Akon

2018-09-25 17:03:34 UTC  

send them Red Ice or James Allsup or something

2018-09-25 17:04:14 UTC  

you mean you guys don't start people out with TGSNT?!

2018-09-25 17:04:42 UTC  

It's not that you can't start out with explicit identitarians, it's just that IQ and crime are harder pills to swallow than "people are happier with similar people"

2018-09-25 17:05:11 UTC  

I think it's better to watch / listen to those videos when your GF can hear instead of trying to get them to watch on their own.

2018-09-25 17:05:15 UTC  

Also, IQ and crime are separate issues that don't really have anything to do with why diversity sucks

2018-09-25 17:05:15 UTC  

@Deleted User I've been watching TGSNT for years now and still haven't finished it <:nervous:359009898115104770>

2018-09-25 17:05:46 UTC  

lol, it's okay. I don't care much for it

2018-09-25 17:06:45 UTC  

The end of TGSNT is epic

2018-09-25 17:06:58 UTC  

"Europa: the Last Battle" is an upgraded version but it is so blackpilling

2018-09-25 17:07:23 UTC  

Blade Runner = the ultimate redpll

2018-09-25 17:07:41 UTC  

The music gets redundant, especially that piano song lol

2018-09-25 17:08:16 UTC  

TGSNT is the one where he talks about diesel fuel for like 45 minutes, right?

2018-09-25 17:08:48 UTC  

Blade runner is drab, but the movies do nothing to showcase how that diversity would really be

2018-09-25 17:15:45 UTC  

Just get yourself an apolitical gf, fellas. Maybe it’s because I’m in Maryland, but they tend to virtue signal center left politics for brownie points. When it boils down to it, they’ll care more about you than your politics (if they find out) unless they’re legitimately political themselves

2018-09-25 17:16:15 UTC  

Might also be because I’m 18 and they’re young too lmao

2018-09-25 17:16:44 UTC  

@TV I can't remember that part exactly, but TGSNT is 6 hours, so it's certainly possible...