Message from @Bjorn - MD
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Like, they just made it up
It's based on a real statistic, but they took it to a totally different conclusion
I don't remember what the original statistic was, but it was something irrelevant
Not surprising, I'm a little skeptical of black women surpassing Jews and Asians in education
black women are enrolled the most (by percentage)
but they're definitely not the most educated
and they don't finish _close_ to the same rate as others
@The Eternal Anglo is she otherwise conservative? What doesn't she agree on exactly?
Show her a world iq map
@Salo Saloson Ya, that's what it was
@TV She's based on a lot of the good areas, like LGBT, marriage, values, against mindless dating, clubs, etc. It's the race, culture, and future of America I'm having problems with still. Like pitbulls are dangerous because of bad owners, people are dumber because of their upbringing and blacks are jailed more because Whites and asians have all the money and Blacks don't, so they can't bribe themselves out of jail
It doesn't matter if she says she agrees or not. She may never admit it, but the more red pills you drop over time, the more she'll come to see that you're right. One day, out of nowhere, she'll start talking like she's Jared Taylor and she'll think she came to those conclusions on her own
@TV Oh I've been laying the groundwork for over a year, it's all coming down to this up-coming Paris vacation. fingers crossed!
Interestingly, the percentage enrolled in college increases if a group of people stays in college longer. So, someone who graduated in 1 year is "less educated" than someone who graduated in 6 years.
Also you should sneak some podcasts and youtube videos in when she's around you. Sometimes hearing other people say the same things helps. Red Ice is good because there's other women on the show.
@TV So I should probably have Lana playing while she's around yeah? Sounds good man
@Virgil Agreed (facts supplement, or rather, justify and reinforce feelings).
@Alex Kolchak - NY Very true. Ultimately, even if you are actively attempting to influence someone's views, you're ultimately only going to be successful if they at least *feel* that they've independently arrived at whichever conclusion they end up drawing.
@TV @Bjorn - MD @Alex Kolchak - NY Thank you for all your advice, by the way
@The Eternal Anglo No schweat, brudda!
no problem, glad to help. Maybe we could have a “rhetorical tactics” guide?
Glad to help.
I think Frog Juice on Twitter has some good threads about how to explain this stuff to people
*had. he got purged, not sure if he’s back
I had a couple of friends who worked for various progressive orgs. Those groups have their sales pitch and talking points basically worked out into a science
we need to be twice as sharp as them
you can always refer back to Jared Taylor videos
He always has sane, simple, and agreeable explanations
And his appearance is also something to note, he's viewed as a harmless nice old man, which is hard to demonize or not to like.
Appearance is important
I don’t know if it’s really possible to straight up rhetorical convince someone in an argument. No one likes to be told their world view is wrong, it’s better to do it in a questioning way. Like, “How come Sarah Jeong can say these things about white people but Candace Owens got banned for saying the same thing about x people?”
(I forget who she replaced the people with but you get the idea. )
@Deleted User Jared Taylor talks too much about race and IQ and race and crime to be palatable to a lot of people
He's largely for people who are already on their way here
And I think women usually conform to the world view of the most dominant male in their life IRC
We need to have sources that talk about identity without bringing up stuff that makes specific races sound bad
right
I know that's not good intention, but that's what it will come off as
Don't get me wrong, he is useful. I'm here largely because of Jared Taylor. The thing is, I was ready for it by the time I found AmRen.