You have negative liberty, freedom from. So if someone who is gay asks you to bake a cake, you bake the cake, but you can refuse to put a gay message on the cake.

"A total of 64.4 percent of men reported having condomless anal sex at least once during the previous year. The rates of men reporting condomless sex were about the same between the three main HIV-status categories, a respective 65 percent, 65 percent and 67 percent among HIV-negative men, HIV-positive men who were unaware of their infection before being tested during the survey (HIV-positive–unaware), and HIV-positive men who knew they had HIV before the survey (HIV-positive–aware).
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point is you don't actually have complete nonagressive power over your private property

https://www.poz.com/article/CDC-risk-report-28308-1232

trigger already indicated that drunk driving is a crime based off of harm that hasn't happened yet

it's a heuristic prediction of likely future harm

but they already use the gov against us
refusing to use the state is just cucking at this point

yes but it also doesn't target a specific group, it is an standard applied to everyone

only applied to intoxicated people

being gay is the same as being intoxicated sry

no, the law that makes it illegal to drink and drive applies to everyone

and the law against being gay in public applies to everyone

if you get drunk and drive, you are commiting a crime

where's the victim

it's a crime because the state says so

the point is that everyone follows the same standard

don't be gay in public. same standard

except not everyone is gay, therefore, it doesn't apply to everyone

anyone can be drunk

everyone is capable of homosexual behaviour and everyone is capable of not engaging in homosexual behaviour

are you discriminating against alcoholics?

we already legislate behaviour that is called law

The point with homosexuals is that they are gay regardless of the law, you can choose not to be drunk, being gay has a natural aspect to it,making it not entirely a choice

Alcoholic wants to drink and drive regardless of the law. Gay man wants to have sex with men regardless of the law.

Alchoholics are not born alchoholics

don't give me this "not a choice" shit

don't give this "choice" shit

everyone's behaviour is influenced by both genetics and "free will"

nobody can claim they can't control their behaviour because of genetics

unless they are incompetent

yes, but people are driven towards homosexual sex by their natural inclinations, people are not driven to alcoholism by their natural inclinations.

what does that matter?

I have a natural inclination to drink and drive. It's preferable in a lot of cases for me

why is that not a natural desire?

don't give that bullshit

why are some desires untouchable?

saying that shows you're not here to argue honestly

bullshit

just giving a anecdotal example you pulled out of your ass that is unfalsifiable is bullshit

I'm going back to listening to voice

why are some desires more legitimate than others?
you don't think pedophilic desires are legitimate, regardless if they're genetic