Message from @Clownley

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2018-03-14 04:02:13 UTC  

That doesn't mean you can tread on their civil rights if they don't act on those inclinations, seriously, why are the concepts of civil rights so hard for you to understand.

2018-03-14 04:02:50 UTC  

why do you get to tread on my right to travel based on an arbitrary heuristic chemical test?

2018-03-14 04:03:01 UTC  

^in reference to drunk driving

2018-03-14 04:03:28 UTC  

because you can choose not to drink and drive. That is why just drinking is not illegal.

2018-03-14 04:03:55 UTC  

you can also choose not to express homosexual behaviour
we went over this

2018-03-14 04:04:09 UTC  

and the test isn't arbitrary, it takes into account what is likely to make most people unable to make the correct descisions while driving.

2018-03-14 04:04:25 UTC  

Except homosexuality is a natural state, being drunk is not

2018-03-14 04:04:30 UTC  

they are very different things

2018-03-14 04:05:00 UTC  

the percent they came up with is arbitrary by definition and will never apply to all cases

2018-03-14 04:05:17 UTC  

@meratrix being drunk is a natural state... for the irish

2018-03-14 04:05:22 UTC  

lol

2018-03-14 04:05:29 UTC  

being drunk is entirely natural
that is your personal moral inclination

2018-03-14 04:05:34 UTC  

speaking

2018-03-14 04:05:36 UTC  

You can only ever apply a best fit interpretation because you cannot account for every possible alcohol tolerance

2018-03-14 04:06:05 UTC  

and I cannot account for every single homosexual interaction
but banning it solves the problem

2018-03-14 04:07:39 UTC  

It actually doesn't solve anything, because you are transgressing against someone's civil rights in their natural state, being drunk while driving is not a civil right.

2018-03-14 04:07:47 UTC  

It was never defined as such

2018-03-14 04:07:58 UTC  

being gay was never a civil right

2018-03-14 04:08:32 UTC  

you are using circular reasoning anyway
"homosexuality is a right because we said so"

2018-03-14 04:08:59 UTC  

“Free speech is a right because we said so”

2018-03-14 04:09:02 UTC  

yes

2018-03-14 04:09:03 UTC  

being gay isn't the civil right, the civil right in this case is, in crude terms, freedom to fuck who you wish consensually.

2018-03-14 04:09:25 UTC  

that is not a right either
Example: incest and pedophilia

2018-03-14 04:09:53 UTC  

consensually, so not pedophilia, and I am not against incest if they consent.

2018-03-14 04:10:32 UTC  

that is your arbitrary judgement that children under a certain age cannot consent
it's really just a loophole

2018-03-14 04:11:18 UTC  

are there really no children under the age of consent who have agency?
do they magically gain it when they hit that age?
do they gain agency when they cross state borders?

2018-03-14 04:11:22 UTC  

no, it's because we have to define it somehow, and most people at the age of 18 can make that descision with decent judgement.

2018-03-14 04:11:38 UTC  

it's never perfect

2018-03-14 04:11:43 UTC  

but it somehow must be defined

2018-03-14 04:11:50 UTC  

and we have to do the best we can

2018-03-14 04:12:14 UTC  

let me restart @radeon

2018-03-14 04:12:24 UTC  

what if the child consents tho?

2018-03-14 04:13:02 UTC  

Children cannot, we consider them unable to consent due to very specific things regarding the development of the childs brain

2018-03-14 04:13:22 UTC  

we have to make the pragmatic decision that at some point you cannot ream negholes with your poz loads

2018-03-14 04:14:19 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/383108664380227595/423333031294533632/IMG_20180314_001413.jpg

2018-03-14 11:00:51 UTC  

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2018-03-14 15:30:47 UTC  

@Deleted User Up for VC?

2018-03-14 15:34:13 UTC  

I’ve got class

2018-03-14 15:34:26 UTC  

@meratrix How ybout you?

2018-03-14 15:34:47 UTC  

Goin to the gym in a few minutes