Message from @Nicholas1166 - NY

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2018-10-03 02:16:58 UTC  

Debt doesnt really matter

2018-10-03 02:17:02 UTC  

A lot of its influential base are moderate to moderate left

2018-10-03 02:17:06 UTC  

Gdp is big tent too

2018-10-03 02:17:27 UTC  

5 Star is hard on economics but socially they're willing to bed

2018-10-03 02:17:43 UTC  

They nearly formed a government with the social democrats.

2018-10-03 02:17:47 UTC  

Lega has grown in popularity quite a bit, they might not need five star next time

2018-10-03 02:17:56 UTC  

But they probably wont' be able to clear 40% alone

2018-10-03 02:18:04 UTC  

Salvini kind of needs to keep them under his fist like he has been

2018-10-03 02:18:05 UTC  

I mean I'm lefty economically. But socially hardline right

2018-10-03 02:18:15 UTC  

5 Star isn't hard right socially though.

2018-10-03 02:18:33 UTC  

Salvini started out as a social democrat/lukewarm socialist or something like that

2018-10-03 02:18:43 UTC  

5 Star is just tough on economics because they do the euroskeptic bit

2018-10-03 02:18:59 UTC  

@Nicholas1166 - NY as have other notable Italians 😉

2018-10-03 02:19:07 UTC  

I thought 5 star was who the media were crying about the most and salvini kind of blind sided everyone

2018-10-03 02:19:20 UTC  

No they were pretty scared of lega

2018-10-03 02:19:24 UTC  

Yes, very notable italians, with very strong jaw lines

2018-10-03 02:19:43 UTC  

John Oliver said that 5 Star was like the ukip of Italy, where as salvini was a "new mussolini"

2018-10-03 02:19:51 UTC  

Media doesn't like five star because antiestablishment, but its lega that really gets their blood boiling

2018-10-03 02:19:53 UTC  

I get they were scared of lega but it seems like 5 star was who they focused on

2018-10-03 02:20:05 UTC  

5 Star was a huge chunk of votes

2018-10-03 02:20:09 UTC  

Probably because 5 star was way more powerful

2018-10-03 02:20:10 UTC  

And the EU is scared of 5 Star

2018-10-03 02:20:14 UTC  

^^

2018-10-03 02:20:16 UTC  

This is when the election was going on

2018-10-03 02:20:37 UTC  

The reason league wasnt as attacked as strongly is because they expected them to stay in the center right coalition and for Berlusconi to get more votes

2018-10-03 02:21:03 UTC  

Lega was excepted to do well but not dominate their coalition

2018-10-03 02:21:09 UTC  

Yeah forza almost crashed as hard as PD

2018-10-03 02:21:33 UTC  

You can't be pro immigration in italy anymore and expect to win elections, which of course, is a good thing

2018-10-03 02:21:42 UTC  

Not that forza was really ever pro immigrant, but pd was for sure

2018-10-03 02:22:13 UTC  

Salvini also while the face of lega for a while, is now the face of the Italian establishment. You hear very little about Conte.

2018-10-03 02:22:23 UTC  

Salvini dominates Italian politics.

2018-10-03 02:23:10 UTC  

I'd say he has a good chance at the PM position later down the line but I'm not so sure that's a great idea honestly

2018-10-03 02:23:25 UTC  

@Kingfish Absolutely. If they have another election soon lega will probably explode

2018-10-03 02:23:28 UTC  

He seems quite well off running the show from A smaller position without as much of the heat.

2018-10-03 02:23:30 UTC  

In a good way

2018-10-03 02:23:41 UTC  

Yeah, he runs the rhetoric more than the administration

2018-10-03 02:23:57 UTC  

Yeah he really defines the new regime without having to actually take the heat of leading it

2018-10-03 02:24:15 UTC  

Which is a pretty ideal position for ambitious men who wish to maintain and extend power

2018-10-03 02:24:28 UTC  

Although, to be fair, he takes a lot of heat anyway, probably more than conte. He just doesn't have to focus on the nuts and bolts

2018-10-03 02:24:53 UTC  

Yeah he absolute does take a lot of the heat through media and threats, but he's got a few hurdles he can stand behind

2018-10-03 02:25:13 UTC  

Yeah, I get that, he kind of lacks vulnerability