Message from @Rabbidsith

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2018-10-03 16:23:02 UTC  

Identity CivNat is all it would look like to most. <:really:453005408064241674>

2018-10-03 16:23:32 UTC  

The only way a name change makes any sense is if it’s altering the message it sends. But again i think the risk/reward isnt worth it and it would be better to change the logo

2018-10-03 16:23:33 UTC  

I think your average White person is looks upon with the SPLC and ADL with more and more suspicion by the day. They key is continuing to agitate and drive them crazy, while leaving nothing with which to fault us.

2018-10-03 16:23:41 UTC  

Exactly, our target audience is to gain the trust, and respect of the average White American, not the attention of the Mass media, SPLC, and ADL.

Secondly, which this is very important... people today, now more than ever, have a *huge* distrust of the MSM, and other big orgs associated with the MSM. We're set up perfectly

2018-10-03 16:23:43 UTC  

If we’re going to change anything at all

2018-10-03 16:23:48 UTC  

I think rebranding would give us a certain distance from Charlottesville and give us more legitimacy to appeal to the average Conservative and Centrist. But we shouldn't do it to get the media or the SPLC off our backs, we should do it so we can reach our target demographic.

2018-10-03 16:23:51 UTC  

Plus we’re doing pretty great right now. No need for the debate atm, and I think Patrick has been pretty clear about his stance for the time being

2018-10-03 16:24:07 UTC  

We *ARE* optics cucks. The Optics War proved how vital optics are, lol.

2018-10-03 16:24:34 UTC  

@Sherlock and what is your logo suggestion? what conveys what you see as proper and bold?

2018-10-03 16:24:59 UTC  

optics cucking to the point of looking like boring civnats is a bridge too far though

2018-10-03 16:25:00 UTC  

Too much rebranding ruins the brand and the reputation that we have built with people who aren’t paying super close attention

2018-10-03 16:25:15 UTC  

That being said, wouldn’t mind if we change the v to a u lmao

2018-10-03 16:25:19 UTC  

@Asatru Artist - MD It would be an aesthetic change, not an idealogical change. It's not like we'd start accepting based Nigerians if we rebranded. So how is it optics cucking?

2018-10-03 16:26:35 UTC  

I just don't want IE to end up being watered down with a bunch of civnat normies that eventually *do* want to bring in That Guy T or Brian Logan or some other "Based blegs"

2018-10-03 16:26:51 UTC  

There would be virtually no aesthetic difference between us, and the other (majority) civnat groups in the United States. What makes us so effective is that *we are* unique in the way we present ourselves, our organisation, and our message.

2018-10-03 16:27:03 UTC  

@Asatru Artist - MD Same here. We'd be retaining the same leadership and standards, though.

2018-10-03 16:27:05 UTC  

see, changing the v to a u i could get behind

2018-10-03 16:27:14 UTC  

@Asatru Artist - MD I dont have a logo suggestion

2018-10-03 16:27:24 UTC  

I don't know. I like the V.\

2018-10-03 16:27:30 UTC  

Because I’ve never given it any thought

2018-10-03 16:28:08 UTC  

Even if we are optics cucks, it's important not to distance ourselves too far from Charlottsville because otherwise you might invite people into our organization that won't appreciate it.

2018-10-03 16:28:10 UTC  

I'm going to say it: Red, white, and blue.... is **Boring.**

2018-10-03 16:28:32 UTC  

Regardless of the situation, our name will eventually be slandered again.

2018-10-03 16:28:34 UTC  

i'm in favor of renaming the group *Amerimutts United* with a rainbow powerfist as our symbol

2018-10-03 16:28:35 UTC  

literally every politician uses red/white/blue for their logos.

2018-10-03 16:28:41 UTC  

It literally doesn't matter.

2018-10-03 16:28:53 UTC  

It would just have to be the overall palette. Nothin' says we couldn't spruce it up with a little originality here and there...

2018-10-03 16:29:07 UTC  

Just needs to be recognizably American.

2018-10-03 16:29:10 UTC  

Maybe but red white and blue has the advantage of being meaningful to everyone whereas a teal triangle is also boring and conveys nothing to practically everyone

2018-10-03 16:29:11 UTC  

@Asatru Artist - MD It would be much easier to attract funding and humam capital if we rebranded. If we think that's optics cucking, we will always be a fringe group.

2018-10-03 16:29:17 UTC  

Changing the IE logo wouldn't get any of the Leftist outlets to stop calling us white supremacists.

2018-10-03 16:29:40 UTC  

they aren't concerned with media, they want more people

2018-10-03 16:29:44 UTC  

It would only end up confusing the normies and have boring civnats trying to get in our organization.

2018-10-03 16:29:45 UTC  

i just want the *right* people

2018-10-03 16:29:49 UTC  

indeed

2018-10-03 16:30:01 UTC  

@Asatru Artist - MD Who just wants more people?

2018-10-03 16:30:02 UTC  

I should mention, that Generation Identity uses a Greek symbol, with a Black/Yellow aesthetic, and they are doing **amazing** all over Europe

Because they carry themselves incredibly well, and prove the name slandering wrong

2018-10-03 16:30:04 UTC  

@Rabbidsith But it might stop conservative outlets from doing it

2018-10-03 16:30:04 UTC  

but in all seriousness, a rebrand doesn't have to be drastic.
for example, i've never been keen on the color teal and think red, white, and blue would have been better choices to catch the "pro-american" types

2018-10-03 16:30:14 UTC  

@Virgil Nah. They're all cucked.

2018-10-03 16:30:32 UTC  

we'll only have sympathetic media attention when these outlets literally have no choice.