Message from Virgil in Nice Respectable People Group #general
@The Eternal Anglo or just labeling us "formerly Identity Evropa"
...though we'd probably lose that with the rebrand.
To be fair, we do a pretty good job at not being labeled "Former National Youth Front"
Yeah I don’t think Nathan’s stuff dogs us that much at all
no matter our name, rebranding will just be a new name for the (((media))) to smear as evil whitey
I think it would only be a matter of time before the SPLC/ADL crowd recognized familiar faces. What they think doesn't matter. What matters is what the average White person thinks of both us and them.
and no, we don't care what the ADL says about us, but normies do, so a rebrand doesn't fix a thing imo
and just makes us look like optics cucks
Identity CivNat is all it would look like to most. <:really:453005408064241674>
The only way a name change makes any sense is if it’s altering the message it sends. But again i think the risk/reward isnt worth it and it would be better to change the logo
I think your average White person is looks upon with the SPLC and ADL with more and more suspicion by the day. They key is continuing to agitate and drive them crazy, while leaving nothing with which to fault us.
Exactly, our target audience is to gain the trust, and respect of the average White American, not the attention of the Mass media, SPLC, and ADL.
Secondly, which this is very important... people today, now more than ever, have a *huge* distrust of the MSM, and other big orgs associated with the MSM. We're set up perfectly
If we’re going to change anything at all
I think rebranding would give us a certain distance from Charlottesville and give us more legitimacy to appeal to the average Conservative and Centrist. But we shouldn't do it to get the media or the SPLC off our backs, we should do it so we can reach our target demographic.
Plus we’re doing pretty great right now. No need for the debate atm, and I think Patrick has been pretty clear about his stance for the time being
We *ARE* optics cucks. The Optics War proved how vital optics are, lol.
@Sherlock and what is your logo suggestion? what conveys what you see as proper and bold?
optics cucking to the point of looking like boring civnats is a bridge too far though
Too much rebranding ruins the brand and the reputation that we have built with people who aren’t paying super close attention
That being said, wouldn’t mind if we change the v to a u lmao
@Asatru Artist - MD It would be an aesthetic change, not an idealogical change. It's not like we'd start accepting based Nigerians if we rebranded. So how is it optics cucking?
I just don't want IE to end up being watered down with a bunch of civnat normies that eventually *do* want to bring in That Guy T or Brian Logan or some other "Based blegs"
There would be virtually no aesthetic difference between us, and the other (majority) civnat groups in the United States. What makes us so effective is that *we are* unique in the way we present ourselves, our organisation, and our message.
@Asatru Artist - MD Same here. We'd be retaining the same leadership and standards, though.
see, changing the v to a u i could get behind
I don't know. I like the V.\
Because I’ve never given it any thought
Even if we are optics cucks, it's important not to distance ourselves too far from Charlottsville because otherwise you might invite people into our organization that won't appreciate it.
I'm going to say it: Red, white, and blue.... is **Boring.**
Regardless of the situation, our name will eventually be slandered again.
i'm in favor of renaming the group *Amerimutts United* with a rainbow powerfist as our symbol
literally every politician uses red/white/blue for their logos.
It literally doesn't matter.
It would just have to be the overall palette. Nothin' says we couldn't spruce it up with a little originality here and there...
Just needs to be recognizably American.
Maybe but red white and blue has the advantage of being meaningful to everyone whereas a teal triangle is also boring and conveys nothing to practically everyone
@Asatru Artist - MD It would be much easier to attract funding and humam capital if we rebranded. If we think that's optics cucking, we will always be a fringe group.
Changing the IE logo wouldn't get any of the Leftist outlets to stop calling us white supremacists.
they aren't concerned with media, they want more people
It would only end up confusing the normies and have boring civnats trying to get in our organization.