@Bjorn - MD The fact that nobody has heard of identitarianism is both a blessing and a curse. On one hand, it makes it hard to do the elevator pitch.
On the other, it allows us to explain what we stand for on our terms. Abandoning it for Americanism where we have to clarify that Americanism risks looking either civnat or WN 1.0 Overall, one of our greatest assets is that we define ourselves, not anyone who came before us.

@Nemets Agreed. I'm just saying that the homophone factor could get dodgy.

fortune 500 companies spend millions if not billions on rebranding.
it's usually done incrimentally or drastically, depending on the severity of need due to market or PR problems.
right now we are in a good spot (for now), but small adjustments down the line couldn't hurt

@TMatthews True.

I was talking about Columbia, lol.

That he was.

@TMatthews I think the beautiful thing about that is the fact that we control the entire Identitarian movement by ourselves, which is a rare blessing.

Colombia *is* great optics, though...

I mean, we could just appropriate the great American figures in our activism and flyers

if we were to use past presidents, might i suggest Andrew Jackson?
american af, broke the bank, and DT's favorite.
plus, the left is constantly trying to remove his statue in varying locations

@The Eternal Anglo It's pretty much just us and GI (who also have good optics). Everybody else, especially PF just tries to copy us

"Columbia" is even more confusing to normies than "EVropa"

@TMatthews A sign that what we are doing is perfect <:deye:359010025223618570>

@The Eternal Anglo We don't have to appropriate what's already *ours*... 😎

We could change our name to Fraternity of American Traditionalism

@The Eternal Anglo Columbia is a romantic name for America and has a long history of usage here in the US. Afterall our Capital and numerous other large cities and areas are named Columbia.

Traditionalism needs a year or two more distance from TWP

Or FAT for short

@Nemets I'm partial to Jackson myself, but GW would make for a clearer claim to continuity.

Columbia is as foreign to most Americans as the idea of American only meaning whites

I didn't want to say it, but yeah, I've lived here for half my life and never heard 'Columbia' in a significant sense to normies

@TMatthews Columbia has little name recognition at this point, but her image is familiar.

We could change our name to a recursive function call that spells out our manifesto

@Bjorn - MD i say use the imagery but not the name

We could bring back Mrs. America, the lady with the shield

@Nemets German-LARPing? Not familiar with that one...

@Goose Probably a good call.

So Identity Slavropa is off the table ?

regardless of people's thoughts about WWII, the war propaganda posters use pretty solid imagery

@The Eternal Anglo An American shieldmaiden? 😏

@Nemets Oh, yeah.

I just though you meant that he was an overall Germanophile.

Strong woman imagery to own the feminists?

@Wood-Ape - OK/MN joan de arc?

@Goose wondering how media would cry about the optics of using allied inspired poster images

Some sort of stylized eagle would not be a bad logo actually

Eagle = nahtzee

@Valaska i think it'd be a slam dunk for us

Eagle was NatSoc, even if it was also USA and Rome

I think the American woman with the shield would bring in a lot of Wamen, which would carry our organisation to the Mainstream better than we ever could

Not gonna fly well with normies