We don't have to rebrand to tap into the source, though, (imo)

I'm sorry, but, in a lot of people's minds, Trump just comes off as dumb, it's not entirely unreasonable. There's a lot of friends who actually seen to understand my anti immigration arguments, but nothing I say will make them like Trump.

@Virgil I don't disagree, but this foreign people used to be 12% of the population, not almost 40% and climbing

I don't disagree. I don't personally think he's brilliant either.

Im saying the people like tucker Carlson and anne Coulter have become very intelligent and well spoken people who align with the America first agenda

And these are powerful allies as are their viewers and fans.

And right now I don't think we can court them.

Likewise Ann Coulter is great, but she went so far hard on the Pro-Trump bit that she has to kind of ride the tiger so to speak. The Trump forever people are all boomers. While I would not mind them cutting some checks for us, they are not gonna be central to our message.

We have enough people and agency to be our own thing. Not ride the coattails of another.

Trump needs to pull all the strings to have a chance at helping our cause, which he hasn't done in 2 years. He's going to lose the house and might lose reelection in 2020. Not looking good. Democrats won the 2016 popular vote by 3 million votes, we just squeaked through the electoral college. The Dems dominate the normies. Texas is expected to go blue by 2024. The Republican party will likely return to a "win over the Hispanics" party soon after Trump leaves office.

Blue Triangle gang gang forever.

@TMatthews Doesn't really matter if they're 12 or 40 percent. The core genetic stock if the American people still exists regardless. Should Greeks have given up on Greece because it was occupied by Turks. Should the Castillians have given up on Spain because of the moorish demographics?

I don't necessarily agree we have the people or the power to stand alone right now.

Frankly.

We're still Fledgling and we have baggage. Pair that with a rather obscure academic concept and it loses interest

I agree that our message and methods aren't specifically pro-Trumpians... but we never even tried to target them, either.

Our demographic are the Whites who can help fight for our future, not saturday night beer drinkers while they watch football

Do we have any musicians in IE? I have an idea to suggest if so.

@Kingfish no offense of course

those are literally the same people

Tucker Carlson is great. He has a different target audience, though. His whole routine is about appealing to boomers and nudging them towards us.

I do support co-opting civic nationalism, but we need to have groups ready for people who've decided they want to go beyond that.

What James Allsup does is really great with his appeal to American nationalism, but we need variety. We can't have *just* James Allsups. We need Jared Taylors, we need Red Ices, etc. We need to have a whole system going Diversity of skills and methods is our strength.

@John Riggs Is it Identitarian boy bands?

@Virgil The Greeks actually did give up Ionia and agreed to population transfers. As for Spain, it took centuries of war to expel the Moors, and they were primarily just a ruling elite that was small in number.
I'm increasingly of the opinion that America is headed towards civil war, but I sure am not looking forward to it or advocating it. At the end of the day, those aren't good optics comparisons

Check this shit out. Boomers lol.

rise and shine evro-peans

I tried to get a couple of our AZ guys to do that. We failed to get it off the ground

what are you doing for your people today

The late stage Roman Republic is full of good anecdotes to compare the two.

Apparently drugs make you more xenophilic.

So smoking dope WILL make you a dirty hippie. Red Foreman did nothing wrong.

Lol

I forget who said it, but essentially the logic was, becoming explicitly right wing and doing explicitly right wing policies and stances like immigration and cultural conservatism will *implicitly* push our Identitarian interests forward.

Apparently, those who are heavily drugged by opiods are generally more accepting towards an outgroup. Opiod crisis anyone?

Might have been alt hype

@Rabbidsith Oxytocin is different than Opioids.

@John Riggs you called?

Not exactly. More of a folk song. But there's a great Swedish identitarian song that I think could be easily translated into English and recorded. This translation is not perfect:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CD0M3IAfDE4

@Sam Anderson Fair enough. However, I would argue that opiods cause similar effects.

Soma takes many forms

@TMatthews That's not quite what I was getting at. The point was that if the Greeks and the Spanish had given their nations up and accepted multiculturalism as integral parts of those nations, they wouldn't exist today.

I do think presenting ourselves as part of the broader right-wing coalition is a good thing, but I would hesitate to take stances on issues that don't pertain directly to demographics or identity