it's a stupid move to throw that to the bin so soon after the great war

Yeah? Tell that to Britain

those future plans involve other countries believing what the german diplomats say?

They're the ones who declared war and refused all peace offers

German diplomats just followed whatever Hitler told them to follow

so it's britain's fault? what exactly is, i'd like you to clarify too

At the end of the day it was his rashness and grand schemes that forced the war with the USSR

There is no "it"

It's many "it"s

i wouldn't say forced, he was mentally unstable and he had soft shits like himmler talking in his ear

For one, Britain could've very well avoided a war with Germany as could Poland had either of them accepted the German proposals for a referendum, a shared corridor etc. Even the BBC reported on this in August of 1939

the soviet union was completely unprepared for a german invasion

But it was completely prepared for an invasion of its own

Why do you think all of its airfields were right at the border

why do you think none of their defenses were?

or that it was busy clearing minefields in 30s instead of placing more

and none of their materiel at all

well, that must have been before they signed a non-aggression pact

Because the way offensive and defensive armies are composed are radically different

i feel this convo is circular

Well it wasn't, actually

sure, but they are composed with materiel

Soviet buildup not only continued but intensified after the pact just as intended

Pact or no pact, the buildup was a fact

when there's not one military force until leningrad. i do believe they weren't on the cusp of an invasion.

Yeah, and tons of it were right at the border

oh it was now?

That's why the Germans were able to destroy thousands of planes and light tanks even before the summer of 1941 was over

it's quite a bit bigger country

Um, yes they had a plan, but the British Air Force (Bulstered by the American supplies) kept them from air superiority. Which the Army needed to launch an invasion

We aren't talking about the Battle of Britain

but Operation Barbarossa

The Luftwaffe had complete air superiority over the Soviet Union until mid to late 1942

i'm probably done talking

I was commenting to the original, Hitler was a moron. His command yes men.

Eh well

And he couldn't stop a losing invasion, because he already fucked the economy having it planned in detail and being unable to adjust it.

If your arguments boil down to "Hitler was a moron" then I guess I'm done myself

luftwaffe had air superiourity over a country that was on the cusp of an invasion apparently without an air force

i'm a different person than floki, we have different names

that's how you tell us apart